There are a few books I know are being written right now that I hope will come out soon. One is a history of No. 75 (NZ) Squadron being written by Group Captain Colin Hanson. Though a very good history of the squadron has been written before by Norman Franks called “Forever Strong”, (as well as an earlier wartime book called “Return At Dawn”), Colin is a meticulous researcher and will no doubt turn out a superb book. He wrote ‘By Such Deeds’ which lists every New Zealand airman and woman who has received a medal or award, with the citation, circumstances, personal details, etc. That’s a great resource.
Another in the pipeline is the third volume of Errol Martyn’s superb books, “For Your Tomorrow” listing every New Zealand airman and woman who died while in the service of the RNZAF, RAF and other air forces from 1915 till 1997. The third volume is much anticipated by researchers. I wish him best of luck with it and hope to see it soon.
As for a wishlist, I’d like to see squadron histories written for a few of the RNZAF wartime squadrons. One would be No. 490 (NZ) Sqn. which has been very much overlooked. The other NZ squadrons in the RAF have each had some sort of official or unofficial history written in the past, but not 490.
And I’d love to see a full history written of No.s 3 Sqn and 5 Sqn RNZAF. Both were GR squadrons in the Pacific in WWII, and today both sqns still exist within the modern RNZAF, each having a long and awesome history. Perhaps histories of some of the other squadrons would be great too, especially No. 2 Sqn which began in the 1930’s and went through to the 1999 disbandment of the combat wing. Or No. 25 (DB) Sqn with its Dauntlesses, and No 6 Sqn with its Hinds and then Catalinas. There are many possibilities. A few people have told me I’d better start writing. Uh-oh.
Sorry Mark, I was referring to the red and white Polish logos.
I didn’t seriously think the white bits on your photos had faded/deteriorated!
After all, it was me who first suggested that they were painted out for security reasons just like you’re saying.
Thanks mmitch, an excellent article with great photos
Well a possible reason I can think of that might make the paint deteriorate and fade so quickly is they have been unable to source the correct standard RAF paint, so have used locally sourced paint of the right colour.
This happened often the the wartime RNZAF where they had to make do due to shortages, so I can’t see why it might not have happened elsewhere.
And perhaps this paint they sourced wasn’t up to the job, it make not have been able to handle the heat from the engine and exhausts, or maybe was broken down by oil. There are numerous possibilities because different paints have different properties.
If they’d used the proper paint and mixed it right, it should last much longer thab 10 months. But there’s another point, perhaps it was the correct paint but was not mixed correctly and not enough hardner was used or something of that nature.
Thanks Peter for that. That is really interesting, because as I said, it must be one of those urban myths that gets perpetuated over the years. I shall take great pleasure in telling Dad this. And everyone else I meet in future who mentions the myth.
Nice photo Mark. Have them deliver the cockpit to my garage, and park the rest of the Lanc round the back.
Thanks for remembering my small efforts Kev. Over the next year I hope my website will expand much more with the many stories and details that are flooding in, and I will finally get the stacks of interviews transcribed and onto the site so people can read them.
As for the past year, I’ve had rather a terrible year actually in most respects. But this forum and my Air Force project have been two constants that helped take my mind off all the crap that has happened to me and my friends in the past year. My proudest achievement of the year, in fact among the best events of my life, was the Wartime Air Force reunion I organised last month. I’ve yet to add all the photos to my site, but here’s a snap of the lasting reminder I instigated so they will be remembered.
Good luck to one and all for 2005. I’m looking forward to hearing all your plans and dreams here. Daz, how’s the book coming by the way?
Helen Clark (the winner of the ugliest political leader of the year award).
And that includes Victor whats-his-name in the Ukraine who was poisoned with agent orange, disappointingly he came runner-up agaijn in this competition but clearly this time it wasn’t a rigged vote. 🙂
Glass half full? Since you’re in the chair, I’ll have an ‘alf
Anyone ever thought of doing a war about the Western Desert in Australia?? ‘Cos that’s what the backdrop reminds me a bit of….! 😀
I assume you mean a war film? If so, a remake of that classic Humphrey Bogart film “Sahara” was made in Australia’s desert posing as North Africa. It starred Jim Belushi in Bogart’s role, but despite this it was still quite good. It also featured the Zucholli Fiat G-59B done up as an Italian fighter.
Other films have been made in Aussie too that simulate the African Sahara and Western Desert. Some that come to mind are Gallipoli, and the mini-series ANZAC’s.
The Colour of War – The ANZACs screened here earlier in the year. Like all the others in The Colour of War series, it is very, very good. Russell Crowe narrated it, not a bad choice as it turned out.
The photos of the Spitfire and P40 are brilliant, thanks John.
Dave
New Zealand doesnt have an Air Force any more so cant have a historic flight 😉 (a bit of a flip comment but now the A-4’s have gone you only have C-130’s and P-3’s – all very sad considering wht might have been)
er, and Iroquois, Soiux, Seasprites, Boeing 757’s, Airtrainers, Beechs, a Harvard and a Tiger Moth!! Plus some new choppers coming very soon, and two hangars full of A4K and Maachi jets that still belong to the RNZAF.
When I was in the RNZAF their Historic Flight was an active flight within the Central Flying School, using CFS pilots, mechanics, etc. The planes were on the RNZAF’s books, and treated like all other active aircraft in terms of maintenance, etc. (I assume it is still the same – that is, of course, if it is still going).
Cheers. I think it was a wonderful gesture for the French Government to donate the aircraft to the people of New Zealand. Otherwise we’d not have one at all, and so many Kiwis served in them during the war, so it’s a brilliant historical aircraft to have.
I didn’t mean that the spar was the only reason for retirement, sorry I should have been more clear on that. I have read that the spar was very near the end of its life though.
I wonder if it is simply an urban myth about the spar being cut. Perhaps it began when people saw it without wings in transit and assumptions were made.
Looks lovely, thanks John.
I have come across that colour blue before once, someone at my old modelling club discussed it when he was researching for painting a Med Blenheim. I can’t recall what the paint’s name was though. It’s pretty odd. Does it look lighter in reality? It always appears in shadow in the pics.
Interesting to have two warbirds together in the scheme of the same pilot.
It sure is. I took the photos when we painted her in April 1993. The artist was Sergeant Trevor Platt, an aircraft technician.
You can see many more of my photos at this thread from earlier in the year
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23376&highlight=plonky
Thanks Laurent, that’s really interesting. I have heard many times from various people that the spar was cut, so this is a surpise to hear it was properly dismantled. The thing is that the spar was time expired anyway, hence the reason it was retired I believe, so either way if someone decided to fly the Lanc it would need a new one.
I assume that o the first ocassion when it was dismatled it was done by the RNZAF? It was flown into RNZAF Whenuapai so I assume they did it.
Thanks again.
There seems to be still substantial remains of this one that crashed, perhaps it might yield some parts
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes/superbus.htm
It had the long nose too.
Did the Lincoln sound the same as a Lancaster? I note it’s Merlins look quite different in their installation so I wondered if they sounded different
Those photos are great Spiteful, but oh my gosh that long nose is ugly! I’d never seen one like that before, Why was it exyended? Did it house specialist equipment?