I agree with you Gnome. That scenario described by Contact seems unlikely, especially since I recall Wg Comm Ron Watts telling me that when attacking another aircraft at night they usually had no idea what it was – as it was pitch black often if under cloud. They simply had to rely on the ground operators who directed them onto the target – vand the ground guys assumed it was German as it was on radar but had no IFF. Ron said a lot of Allied aircraft were accidentally shot down by Allied nightfighters – I guess if their IFF packed up they were seen as hostile.
So how could a German pilot recognise a Mossie in the pitch black, I think it’s be difficult. And also then distinguishing it as a fighter instead of a bomber. Na!
I say jolly good luck to them, it sounds like they really know what they’re doing and hopefully will achieve their goal.
It would be fantastic to see such an odd bird back in the skies. I love the whole idea of recreating the feel of the old Imperial Airways days.
I’m sure if it gets airborne it will be in demand for both airshows and filmwork – I can just see Bertie Wooster boarding it in a remake, or perhaps it could be in the next Indiana Jones adventure…
Many thanks Roger, I’ll have to try and track it down. I think it’s fairly easy to pick up a copy still.
Cheers
Dave
Indeed it is a very interesting monument. I can see such a recovered artifact playing an important part in telling the story of the aerial battle, but I dear say if it were recovered today it’d go into a restoration hangar and roll out flyble. Amazing how technology in restoration has progressed, or perhaps people simply are willing to take the time and expense more these days to get old wrecks back to pristine condition.
I must have been walking round with ‘cloth eyes’ when I was there, because I’m sure I’d have photographed it if I’d seen it. I can’t even blame it on being in a darkened corner in those days!
Thanks for the Hurricane details. I don’t recall seeing it when I visited in 1993 so I guess it may not have been on display then.
Dear old Black 6, I was there for her first ever flight.
What? Back in the 1940’s? Or post-restoration?
Some lovely photos, thanks Geoff.
It is nice to see the Bf109G “Black 6” looking so lovely – these are the first photos I’ve seen of it since it crashed.
That Hurricane is a bit worse for ware. What’s the story with that? Mind you, it’s in about the same state as Sir Tim Wallis’s one was when he got it, and his now flies. Looks like Hendon should send it off the Hawker Restorations.
I have just read in a recently acquired copy of RNZAF Contact magazine, from January 1945, the following which has an interesting twist regarding claims I think.
“German Air Defences Hampered
The deterrent effect of the Mosquitoes is in many ways as important as the actual destruction of enemy fighters. The German night-fighter pilot never knows now whether, instead of attacking a comparitively lightly armed bomber, he will himself be attacked by a heavily-armed and very fast manouvrable fighter. Our offensive Mosquitoes are regarded as such that if a German pilot succeeds in shooting one down he is allowed to count this as two aircraft destroyed.”
Is this true, or propaganda?
Great photos B17man. Just brilliant. 🙂
I love the one of the lineup of bombers and the C47 taken from inside the office, looking out the window. It reminds me of the classic magazine advert for bourbon (Southern Comfort?) of the same scenario with a silver B17 outside and the bottle on the desk.
What is the story behind all those large scale models on the scaffolding? Was that used for the mass taxi shots? I’m trying to place them in relation to the film. I wonder what became of the models.
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Dave
Than you very much indeed guys. We will consider each one of these for inclusion.
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Dave
Yep, that full sized mock-up they used for the interiors is at Warner Bros Movie World on the Gold Coast in Oz. Every Warner Bros video and DVD you hire here in NZ has an advert for this themepark, and it gives the impression that re-enactors do a show for the public with pyros and the works. Is this really the case? I have often wondered. Is it a daily or regular show, like those cowboy shoot outs and gangtser shows those film parks have?
Fantastic photos by the way. 15 years? Amazing. One amazing thing, most of the actors still look pretty much the same these days. They, like the film, don’t seem to have aged that much.
This reminds me of the New Zealand Rugby Union who decided to trademark the Silver Fern emblem. However, that emblem was worn by almost every other national team in New Zealand, from netball to league to cricket. And it is also used by many brands such as butter. It is a national icon. There was outcry, but from memory, they were allowed to go ahead. This was to protect their merchandise being ripped off by the Asian knock-off factories.
The red-white-blue roundel, and also the red-blue roundel, are not just the roundel of the RAF, they are the roundel of the British Empire – something as redundant as their idea.
Hang on, that same roundel has been used by several other Air Forces too. RNZAF, RAAF, RCAF…. How can they have exclusive rights to it?
Ridiculous idea. Imagine the money wasted in bureaucratic government circles to come up with this nonsense.
🙂 Very amusing, but I doubt that Iran or North Korea would be stupid enough to waste £1,116,200.00 on such a clapped out hunk of scrap metal. Mr Bond can sleep easy in his bed.
This must be a sensational sale, there is now a report about it on New Zealand Teletext!!!!
Not surprised, the last time I took a look it was at a modest 6000 quid, now it’s at £1,115,100.00. Looking at the bidders list it seems one individual has bumped it up and up. It looks like it won’t actually sell for that amount, I dear say it is hoax bidding.