well it looks like just as the phoon is said to be 5th gen its obsolete, so i guess they should have stayed 4.5
dont you hate it when someone ruins the EU fantasy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286635/Defence-budget-cuts-Major-projects-axed-troops-kit-need-says-Liam-Fox.html
Defence Secretary, Dr Fox made clear that major projects like the Typhoon Eurofighter jet – already seen as obsolete – will bear the brunt of cuts.

Not only do you have the wrong end of the stick, you have the wrong stick..

Please note the “-” in the above news item, they introduce comment from the Author..

for example

here :- Sad Gits

“The explosion of popularity in online chat has seen millions going online to make friends, However, for those not popular enough to build up a list of genuine “followers” – Such as JackJack – are now offered an instant fan base for the equivalent of a few pounds.

The news bite is outside the “-” and the author comment is in it.

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That hasn’t stopped the US!!

You honestly believe they’re remotely similar in the RCS dept?

Is that the US version or the International partners version?:D, and yes I believe that both have exactly the same RCS at this time as both are developmental aircraft.

Scorps posted this on another forum:-

A visitor group visiting the JG 73 claimed that the Typhoons were doing well during the Indian trials, it is said that the high altitude trials were pleasing. It’s also said that the Typhoon did better than the Rafale at Leh. This is what has been reportedly said to the visitors by the personal of the wing.

To my mind pleasing doesn’t mean it went without a hitch!!!:)

Usual caveats apply – i.e. its only a rumour at present.

So contenders for the top 2 positions for the leh phase tests are Gripen (and maybe Typhoon) based on the limited info coming out of India

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Just for posterity the minister on the 27/06/2002 the day JSF deal was announced in Australia:-

QUESTION: What are these things going to cost taxpayers? The Australian taxpayer is going to pay how much for these things?

ROBERT HILL: Per aircraft?

QUESTION: Yes?

ROBERT HILL: Well, that’s not known at the moment, but it is believed to be in the vicinity of about 40 million US per aircraft. And any other aircraft that’s around, as you would know, is considerably more than that. You’re looking at double that price.

QUESTION: Minister, a question for you, Minister, and a question for Air Marshal Houston. Are you this morning telling all other competitors, ‘Don’t bother any more. We’re committed to the Joint Strike Fighter sight unseen at $40 million a copy.’ ? And, Air Marshal Houston, how can you be confident that this aircraft, sight unseen, will have the range and the endurance and the payload to effectively replace the F111, for example?

ROBERT HILL: Well, if I just start by saying of course this aircraft has already won competition in the United States against Boeing. Two examples of the aircraft are flying and there’s been an enormous investment and work done to get to this stage for it to win that competition.

In relation to other manufacturers who would have liked to sell to us as part of the Air 6000, to be fair to them I think we’ve got to say what I’ve already said and that is that we are going into this project expecting it to be successful. We’re going into the Memorandum negotiation expecting the Memorandum to be signed.

Source http://www.minister.defence.gov.au/Hilltpl.cfm?CurrentId=1641

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I found the blog here http://livefist.blogspot.com/ but the aircraft are not mentioned on the March 26th report.

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JSF prices from the cheer squad

No those numbers are VERY pessimistic (based on JET II projections)

Err just remind me again which set of figures has most accurately tracked the JSF price and its development.

Is it the Jet estimates or LM?

its a simple question which you (and Princess Jackajck) can’t address because it would make you wrong.

Or have you just got me to bite with an April Fools jape?:eek:

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