it was about a ton of test equipment, but there may have been some standard equipment removed as well.

Good contribution Jwcook. It might be noteworthy that there are at least three production variants of the EJ200 MK101. The EIS version fitted to batch 1 aircraft, the FOC version fitted to batch 2 aircraft abd the G201 version fitted to batch 3 (tranche 2) aircraft. I would need to look up for the specific differences, but IIRC the FOC version introduced a new HPT and some compressor changes. The G201 introduced the DECMU and some other changes.

Thanks Scorps

So we have so far :-

EJ200-DVE in 1988 design verification engine???
EJ200-01 in 1995
EJ200-03A 1997 development
(these were the engines on the Typhoon DA6 aircraft that crashed due to software/engine problems). this included all-blisk fan and the new digital control (DECU C2).
EJ200-03Z in 1999(production variant).
EJ200-101 Production engine EIS version.
EJ200-101 Production engine FOC version fitted to batch 2 aircraft new HPT and some compressor changes.
EJ200-101 Production engine G201 version fitted to batch 3 (tranche 2) aircraft introduced the DECMU.

There have been some more production changes with life cycle improvements but not sure how they designate those changes.

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Saudi Arabia possible interest in more +72? YES, PROBABLE IMO

I agree its has a good chance, the timing isn’t critical the contract for the first 72 is ongoing, with deliveries recommenced, the decision to not build them in Saudi and its associated contract variations is a problem though.

UAE +60 possible SOMETIME IN THE FAR FUTURE

They have been in negotiations a while (December 2012) you would think it would be sooner rather than later, I didn’t think the UAE was talking to anyone else but Eurofighter.

Kuwait +28 showing interest, in country evaluation and reportedly in talks. LET’S SEE
Qatar +24 to 36 has asked to evaluate Typhoon. LET’S SEE
Bahrain +?? shown interest WOULD BE A PROBLEM (CIVIL WRONGS THERE)

I think its a domino effect in that region, all having the same aircraft would have huge benefits, I think the Saudi’s and Omani’s to a lesser extent are making some effort to get other Arabic nations to get Typhoon.

Yemen NO – COST

Second hand tranche 1 could be offered!, with baseing rights across the peninsular would be attractive, but is a very long shot.

Malaysia NO IDEA

Typhoon has been very active in the region and the demo in April 2013 has been very successful, and they were suitably impressed.

Denmark NO – COST
Canada NO – NOT AMERICAN
South Korea NO – NOT AMERICAN

Denmark was so wedded to the JSF its hard to see anything changing, but politics is a funny game, and there is a shift occurring.
It seems they will play a delaying game in the hope the JSF turns the corner and they can buy it without such a backlash. But the JSF is a very troubled program.
Canada is a political decision, once again its become a political football, for all of the USA influence the JSF is hard sell.

South Korea is interesting, the recent offer of ~$2b for its future fighter if selected is quite odd, the decision of SK to go with Typhoon is tied to their fighter roadmap and commitment to R&D a new airframe.

depends what they want, consolidate their reliance on US equipment and the support of the US, or try to be more independent.

India HARDLY LIKELY UNLESS EUROFIGHTER WANTS TO SIGN A CONTRACT DASSAULT FINDS COMMERCIALLY UNACCEPTABLE

It wouldn’t be the contract Dassault arranged it would be a new one, perhaps Dassault have over promised and are desperately trying to claw back every penny. why risk such a big order by delay and nit picking unless it was commercially not viable for Dassault to commit.
I’m not convinced this contract will be benefit Dassault as much as it would have liked.

So I can see a Saudi order coming up in the next couple of years and possibly Qatar and Kuwait, too.

Saudi yes, the other two depend on the UAE decision.

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Most of the Typhoon’s exports are for airframes that have been offloaded by the partner nations who don’t want them anymore.

And I won’t even go into the corruption scandals that tainted some of those deals.

Nic

Hi Nic

Would that be the minimum ~571 odd Typhoon airframes that have been sold?

Rafale has only 225

~350 ish if you include the not yet signed Indian deal, and even if the Indians sign for another 64 it just breaks 400:(

You could add 60 potentially for UAE and it still isn’t as successful as Typhoon even if you chucked in Brazils 36 and a couple of others..

So its all about number of operators that are pencilled in for the next 40 years plus the number of airframes in service, and the argument I’m hearing is this is the sort of influence France seems happy to be missing because they have a home grown national solution.

You may have noticed I’m being extremely kind and using Typhoons absolute minimum numbers and Rafales wildest hopes and dreams numbers.:cool:

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This post is utterly ridiculous.

The alternative to each country retaining their national sovereignty and the capability to build a fighter is this: all european countries being forced to spend hundreds of thousand billions on ONE fighter made by one gigantic company that will develop a crap plane that nobody needs but everyone is forced to buy.

The fact that France & Dassault managed to make a 100 french fighter that is just as good as the Eurofighter is a proof that you are 100% wrong.

Nic

Hi Nic

The gigantic companies of the USA will continue to get the export deals while European companies squabble over crumbs.. Do you think BAE Systems would be better off as all the individual British companies it swallowed?

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126 fighters to India is not too shabby these days

Get the signature on the contract first!! Eurofighter have already had one export in the time its taken so far!!, want to take a bet they may get another before its signed with India?

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History has show who was making unreasonable demands… its self evident.

France had to go it alone because of its demands, while European collaboration was worked out with UK, Germany, Italy, and Spain.

Its plain for all to see which solitary country doesn’t play well with others, and because of that European defence has and will continue to suffer.

The reasons why France should have made the effort to stay in the European program are many, the reasons for the partners were far fewer but still beneficial.

Here is the proof:-
You will see that mistake acknowledged and rectified, the admission will be from future collaboration programs involving France and the partners. (Providing they play nicely….. God help us all!!) the alternative for French military aircraft production is a slow decline into irrelevance.

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