Nice tactic, you realise that you have made yourself look foolish so falsly accuse others of racism.:rolleyes:

There has been no racism in this thread and your false accusation is nothing more than an effort to distract people from your failure to read before posting.:mad:

More garbage and lies to hide your ignorance and bias. You really do believe in your little world that the Iranians would just shoot conventional weapons into Europe or America, ROFL! 😀

The stupidity of this suggestion is of epic proportions.

Perhaps they except the fact they will get wrecked, all this is already explained in the thread.:p

This is all the evidence anyone needs to show what you think of the Muslim population in general.

You do understand the difference in speed and range right? You do understand that the Raptor has ~20,000lb more thrust than the Flanker, and is flying clean.
The Flanker won’t be carrying 8-12 AAMs and supercruising at M 1.7+.

You mean 10,000 lbs more thrust?

That just proves that you are unable to read. It has been pointed out here on multipe occasions that Iran does not have to use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons to cause damage and death in Europe with ballistic missiles.

Now before you return I would advise you to improve your comprehension skills.

Notice I said conventional weapons? Who can’t read? Looks like you. :rolleyes:

If they so much as fart in the direction of Europe they are going to get wrecked, so your point is as worthless as ever.

I assumed the following RCS values, as commonly accepted:
1- PAKFA: 0.1 m2
2- F-35: 0.01 m2
3- F-22: 0.0004 m2

One of the papers of Carlo Kopp gave the values for the F-22 and F-35. Plase can someone inform the source that state RCS of 0.001 m2 and 0.0001 m3 for the F-35 and the F22 respectively?

You are aware all 3 values are probably completely inaccurate? And would be quoted for a best case, head on value? Which is complete crap and marketing trickery.

I think the Su-34 is stealthier than .1m2 due to RAM and re-shaping. States in places as having the RCS of a cruise missile

It has already been proved to you, current Iranian missiles already have the capacity to strike Europe, and their current technology development programmes could allow them to extend range to 5000km. Perhaps you are trying to put a price on human life?

Yeah, the Iranians are just going to start attacking everyone. Good fantasy there. 😀

You’ll forgive me if I point out that you have answered your own question?. Or was that the point?.

It does beg the question of why Iranian missile ranges are increasing if, in your words, they wouldnt want to eliminate US cities?.

You manage to contradict yourself very quickly here by suggesting that Iran might want the ability to eliminate US cities as a deterrent to the US attacking Iran.

The anecdotal evidence certainly supports the conclusion. ICBM’s are unnecessary for stopping US invasion forces directly and an Iranian counterforce attack is pointless as American missiles would be unlikely to be pointed at Iran. Especially if GBI made the targetting of US ICBM’s absolutely unnecessary.

Bottom line Iran developing ICBM capability does represent a threat to the US or th Iranians wouldnt be bothering with it. If the Americans have a defensive measure that can passively challenge any Iranian ICBM without to need to resort to pre-emptively going in to resolve the situation so much the better.

Are you missing the point entirely? I expect better from you.

The Iranians should have the capability to destroy US cities as A MEANS OF PREVENTION of an invasion. Never something you do as a first strike thing (suicide for Iran).

Edit: I see where you think I contradict myself, when I don’t. I suggest Iran wouldn’t want to eliminate US cities as an OFFENSIVE maneuver. They should be able to do this in a DEFENSIVE maneuver, which should be acceptable I would think.

Now the US shouldn’t care about this, since they aren’t going to invade IRAN! Right?! So there is no danger of cities to be lost.

This is really simple.

Jonesy, why in the hell would Iran want to eliminate US cities with nuclear weapons? Or the opposite.

Any nuclear launch by Iran on the US will just be suicide, and anyone in power in Iran would know that. Why would the Iranians just want to commit suicide?

On the other hand, the US should stay the hell out of Iran, and Iran should probably have ICBMs to PREVENT an invasion. That sounds perfectly legit to me.

They’re aware of stealth, AESA, etc…, but it’s still several years before any of this technology shows up in a production model Russian aircraft.:D

Who gives a crap? Where is the F-35? No where. And it will be around only when the PAK-FA is ready with its new AESA. Where is European AESA? No where. Where are the Raptors? Back home doing nothing. :rolleyes: