Well, then you must believe the Su-27SM is inferior upgrade F-15C with AESA Radar?
No, where did you get that notion?
The Su-27SM upgrade is there to give the Su-27 airframes new missile capability / multi-role ability, and match all fighters of the 4 and 4+ gen. Similar to the F-15C upgrade / F-15E production.
The Su-35BM features real 5th gen tech, and is highly computerized, much more than the Su-27SM.
I doubt Russia even believes that. As it would just produce 600 Su-35’s to counter the 183 F-22’s of the USAF………….and cancel the PAK-FA all together.
You can bet if the Russian Air Force does get the Su-35. It will be in very small numbers.
For the RuAF 2-3 regiments IS small numbers. Now you are just contradicting yourself and being foolish.
Well, its not over until the fat lady sings……………Sorry, we are just back to the intentions??? (and you can buy anything with intentions)
As long as you bring it up! Russia already has a large fleet of Flanker. While many are old. Most are newer than the USAF Fleet of F-15C’s and have far fewer hours on them to boot. Really, all these aircraft need is upgrades in Radars and Avionics. That is until the arrival of the PAK-FA. Which, I am not mistaken is the current plan………This of course explains the reluctants of the Russian Air Force to purchase the Su-35.
The Su-27SM program is currently active, but the program is not even close in capability to the Su-35BM.
It’s like comparing the AESA F-15C to the Su-35BM, it just doesn’t work.
The Su-35BM showcases 5th gen tech, while the upgraded Su-27SM is merely a 4+ gen upgrade.
This is also the point you can’t seem to process. The Su-35BM is an excellent plane that will let pilots smoothly transition from the 4th gen to the 5th gen.
Your own quote……….”Plenty of sources, including interviews, suggest that Russia will purchase a whole bunch of Su-35’s”
Sorry, terms like “suggest” or “possibly” are far from solid or concrete! The whole point is it doesn’t matter unless contracts are signed and orders placed………At this stage you can Google all you want. Its not going to change the facts.
The true is the Russian Air Force doesn’t likely want the Su-35. As it would just prefer to wait on the forthcoming arrival of the PAK-FA. If, it does get a small number. It would likely be just to get production rolling and to hopefully improve the chances of export success. Which, besides a few to say somebody like Venezuela or Malaysia are not looking to good……..unless in your expert opinion you have something you woud like to share???
This is epic fail on your part – again. They WANT the airplane – and they want it for specific reasons. If you don’t understand this, I can’t help you.
Well, maybe you should stop calling names and take a look in the mirrior. I said that no country had firmly committed to the Su-35. In short as of today no country including Russia itself have placed a solid order for the Su-35. Just likelyhoods and possibilities. So, from every posting and every source that I have read. I have seen nothing contrary to that statement. So, to be honest “its you” that has no clue…………as for commenting on Russian Military Matters. I believe that is the whole point of a free Military Forum like AFM. Regardless, if you like share thoughts views or not……….with all do respect.
Hahaha give me a break :rolleyes:
Good attempt to reframe the situation and make it look like you know what you are saying – when you don’t. Plenty of sources, including interviews, suggest that Russia will purchase a whole bunch of Su-35s to better integrate 5th gen aircraft into the Air Force. Google is your friend, and so is speaking Russian. Clearly for you only google is going to work, as I couldn’t care less what you think, and whether your are misinformed or not. Want to see that the Russians are buying the Su-35, do your own research.
The curve of the magazine is too great for the 5.45x39mm AK-74 series weapons.
Potentially, but I wouldn’t go just off that since the video is a little fuzzy and the angle he’s holding the gun would make this type of ID rather inaccurate.
Agreed……………the article didn’t say anything about a “firm” order for the type!
BTW……………who are the supposed “export” customers???
Either way, the fact that you knew nothing of even potential orders (which are firmer in other sources) shows you shouldn’t even comment on Russian military matters you clearly have no clue about. :rolleyes:
Well, that is the first I’ve heard of it………..do you have a source and have they been ordered or just proposed??? Regardless, such a small order is likely to to get the type in production and hope they will win some export orders.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080707/113424999.html
2-3 Regiments worth. Go figure.
You can find more sources if you dig around if you like.
Sorry, the Flanker can’t beat a Lightning let alone the mighty Raptor. Which, explains why they haven’t purchased the SU-35 and are developing the PAK-FA…………….
What the hell are you talking about lol? They are purchasing just shy of 100 SU-35 aircraft, mostly for 5th gen integration and training purposes for pilots.
somebody has the video.The image aint so clear however soldier seems well equiped and has a 7.62mm silenced Ak
How would you know it’s a 7.62mm version?
The AK-74/101/103 would look near identical.

This looks promising, someone has to have the details of this video that Saturn showed in China.
No they were not.:rolleyes:
Yes they were, LOL! 😀
A point of view that is nonsense, the USN operates more vessels at a much higher operational tempo, you have already been told that relaible accident rates can only be ascertained by comparing the numbers to Sea rates. I suspect that you will not even be able to provide the number of accidents per year for the USN anyway.:rolleyes:
They were provided earlier anyway. :rolleyes: So go cry the thread a river.
Well, Russia was far from leading the west 20 years ago and until the past couple of years didn’t even have the funds to keep most of its current fleet in service. Now we are to believe they are equal to the west???? Let’s not forget the Kursk of a few years back and the recent accident that killed dozens of saliors and tech on a Nuclear Submarine. Sorry, you didn’t make the sale………
The US has more accidents than the Russian Navy. The Russian accidents you mention both have high casualties – and both for obvious reasons. :rolleyes:
The irrational actor model.
Anyway whether Iran is nuclear capable or not, the ABM system still has a function. Afterall you dont need need nukes for ballistic missiles.:rolleyes:
If Iran isn’t nuclear capable then America is wasting its dried out money. :rolleyes: