You mean like in places where one’s opponents are using civilians as shields, by putting their HQs and fighting positions next to neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, historically important sites, religious sites, etc…?:rolleyes:

Exactly. Places you shouldn’t even be. And knowing renowned American bombing accuracy (not that the Russian ones are any better lately), no bomb size is going to save any civilians.

The number game is also fairly weak, whoever mentioned it – when was the last time you bombed 10 different terrorist hideouts in one mission?

Or 5?

You do understand the reasoning behind the small diameter bomb right? If lots of destruction is what is needed, then a 2000lb JDAM, 5000lb bunker buster, or Tomahawk would be used. If on the other hand, one wants the ability to carry more bombs to use against targets that don’t need that big of a punch(not hardened, accuracy of weapon is sufficient for destruction, limiting of collateral damage), it’s a huge advantage. If you don’t mind carrying fewer weapons per sortie, or collateral damage, then by all means use a bigger, less efficient weapon.

You mean good for bombing places where you probably shouldn’t be? :rolleyes:

Ever heard of Aegis?

Ever heard of the Kh-31P?

Didn’t Sukhoi fly an Su-30MK (the original one, no TVC or whatnot) demo at Paris or Farnborough with the jet fully fueled and fully fitted with weapons to demonstrate the agility at heavy weights?

Wasn’t it a Su-30KN?

IOC in 2006:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/jassm-program.htm

Note that this is the JASSM, not the JASSM-ER. It is not, however, currently integrated with the F-15E, and as such has no bearing on this discussion.

You cheeky b. . . . . 😡 😡

😀

What does the Su-27 have that compares with the GBU-28? AGM-154? LJDAM? GBU-39? AGM-158?

GBU-28 vs a smaller KAB-1500 with penetration warhead. F-15E wins on larger bomb.

AGM-154 vs KH-59ME – Su-27SM wins on range.

AGM 158 – isn’t even in service.

JDAM – already covered, no sat guided weapons on Su-27SM, not that they are crucial with TV/laser available.

GBU-39 – Here you might as well use a Kh-59MKE.

In real terms, flex is right, there’s really no edge here for anyone.

Except stand-off for the Su-27, which could be equal when/if the AGM-158 comes into service.

That’s great if your target is a ship. Now let’s talk about land attack weapons options available to the F-15E vs. …..

Ok, let’s hear this?

No satellite guided weapons on the Su-27SM. . . wow?

Laser/TV guided weapons of all sizes included (KAB series), short range missiles included.

Dumb bombs – – – of various sizes.

What does the F-15E have that would compare to the Kh-59ME?

What does it have to compare to the Kh-31P?