There is no way a diessel sub has the speed and endurance to engage an enemy SSN in open water

Are you reading what I am saying?

BASTION

PROTECTION

– aka, their main purpose. In which, they are great.

“Polazhaev: The Americans can think whatever they’d like. An interesting story comes to mind. Twenty years ago, we held a joint sailing and anti-submarine defense operation with the U.S. forces. As a result, it became clear that in the event that the Soviet Union called a fleet of modern nuclear submarines into action en masse, the U.S. navy wouldn’t be capable of organizing an effective defense. Even the Shchuka ships showed professional combat qualities. “
Anyway, comparing a Victor III to a LA class is just stupid (my opinion). The LA class has been given regular updates and modifications while the Victor’s have been sitting at pier last 15 years with little or no modifications at all.
The latest Akula class is perhaps a match for the LA class, but after Seawolf and Virginia the russian are way behind again. When the Yasen is launched the US already have 10 new generation SSN’s. Building is just going too slow for the russian navy..

Really? What updates have the LA subs been given? :rolleyes:

Improved LA and Normal is the flavor they come in from what most people see.

So are you saying that early generation AESA didn’t use more power, have fewer modules, run much hotter?

You are right back to crappy specs. :rolleyes:

Stop ridiculing yourself.

Except the 1st generation stuff is power hungry, runs hot and has a higher failure rate. Other than that, it’s golden.

That and it is heavier, with fewer modules, which limits its capabilities.

No, what you are listing is bad specs, bad quality. Clearly it is a tough concept for you both. . .

Robustness adds weight. 15:1 is the thrust/weight ratio you see for missile motors which only fly one 20 minute flight. In other words, the 15:1 motor does not have the durability for an airplane with a 6000-8000 flight hour design life.

With a 4,000 hour engine life, they could easily do a mid-life upgrade every 10-20 years.

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Russian fifth-generation fighter to perform maiden flight in 2009 – deputy minister

ST. PETERSBURG. Sept 24 (Interfax-AVN) – A Russian fifth-generation fighter will fly its maiden flight in 2009, Russian Deputy Industry and Trade Minister Yury Borisov told journalists at a conference in St. Petersburg on Tuesday.

The plane prototype already exists, and is based in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Borisov said.

The aircraft will be equipped with Russian-made avionics, he said.

The principal contractor for building the fifth-generation fighter is the Sukhoi aircraft holding company. Most experts are of the view that the characteristics of the basic version of the Russian fifth-generation fighter will be competitive with those of its U.S. analogs.

The projected aircraft will be multifunctional (that is, capable of destroying both aerial and ground targets in any weather and at any time of day), super-maneuverable (capable of flying at low airspeeds and with a high angle of attack), hard to detect in the optical, infrared, and radar waves, and capable of using 300-400-meter-long runways to take off and land.

The aircraft will also be able to perform long flights at supersonic speeds with multiple aerial refueling, will have qualitatively new electronic equipment, and its flight processes will be automated as much as possible.
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The latest from the older thread for those who aren’t up to date on the official word.

Russia is having economic troubles like the rest of the world. That combined with years behind the west hardly translates into the PAK-FA being a super weapon. Also, who will have the funds to purchase it????

Putin has claimed Russia will get through without any detrimental effects to the country’s economy.

Nice to see you post your anti-Russian crap as 2nd comment though. :rolleyes: