Are there any quality pics of the 4 left over “new” Victor III vessels in the North Fleet?

Arkhangelsk being towed!

Hopefully for refit – things are really picking up for the Navy.

Prototype fighter jet Su-35 destroyed during test
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27 April, 2009, 14:09

A next-gen combat aircraft Sukhoi Su-35 went off the runway and was completely destroyed during engine test at the range in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in Russia’s Far East.
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The aircraft was fourth of its kind and was equipped with upgraded engines. During land test on Sunday, Su-35’s brake system failed and the speeding jet went off the runway and its left engine caught fire, according to eyewitness reports. The official investigation into the reasons of the incident is underway.

The pilot Evgeny Frolov ejected just before the vehicle crashed into a border barrier and was taken to hospital with burns and other injuries.

Sukhoi started flight tests of Su-35 in February 2008. So far three aircraft have been built logging almost 100 flights total. With the fourth prototype on the wing, the producer hoped to reach 150-160 score by midyear. Sunday crash will not affect the production schedule, according to Sukhoi.

Su-35 is a “generation 4++” fighter jet with superior manoeuvrability, upgraded phased-band radar array and new cockpit instrumentations. Sukhoi plans to launch series production by 2010. The cost of the jet which crushed on Sunday is estimated at $US 36-38 million.

This is old new, of course, but I just happened to take a real close look at that price tag.

Anyone think this is bad journalism and guess work? $38 million for the Su-35BM seems like a hell of a deal. Rather ridiculously cheap.

such as?

but that’s beside the point, jammers and stealth are complementary, they work well together

Actually, jammers will do a great job to COMPROMISE your stealth. You’d use your jammer if you were already painted.

And such as? Let’s see, you could probably get a budget platform like a Tu-16 with new ECM gear on it. That would work pretty good.

The question is no one has had the need for it.

so, who’s the fanboi?

as we’ve gone over again and again, relying on ECM to overcome being a flying barn door is very dangerous

No, it’s not dangerous, it’s the most effective way to counter the enemy’s sensors given a non-stealth platform, just like the barn door Super Hornet.

The SH is a match for the Su-30MKI level aircraft.

The SH is hardly a match for the Su-35BM.

it’s at a very basic level

a radar only responds to waves of the correct frequency

thus to impact (jam) the radar, you MUST be on the same frequency

this is a base-level requirement no matter what type of jammer, whether simple noise or something more sophisticated

Interference can work on completely different levels, and can potentially simply confuse the missile away even if it knows the signal to HOJ on to.

i know enough to know he’s full of garbage

‘from pictures of the F-35 and my sooper-dooper radar simulator, i can accurately predict its RCS from all directions”

puh-lease

RCS relies on so many tiny details that simply aren’t available in the public domain that it’s not even remotely plausible

even boeing when talking about their F-15SE, when they have FAR MORE sophisticated analysis tools and FAR MORE detailed drawings than anything kopp has access too, admit that they can’t really tell its performance until they put it up on the pole

No matter. The F-35 is paper as far as I’m concerned now. When Australia gets the F-35, you can worry about the PAK-FA swatting it around and then whine about how they need the F-22 to counter the PAK-FA.

The SH, is no low RCS plane with its payload, and no more than an equal of the Su-30MKI.

Aussies better hope no Su-35BMs come around to their neighboorhood.

it’s simple, to jam the radar, it has to operate on the same frequency as the radar

so yes, it is guaranteed to work against any jammer the russians come up with in the future because that jammer would have to work in certain ways to be effective

Hahaha, yeah right, this would make jammers worthless.

You obviously don’t know what you are talking about.

There are various ways, in case you didn’t know, of “jamming” a radar.

These ways are expanded upon with each new jammer, and older means are expanded upon.

its radar is no slouch as you may have noticed. you can argue that the flanker’s is ‘bigger’ and ‘more powerful’, but if you’ve seen those charts of radar power vs rcs, it doesn’t matter

it could be 4x as powerful (which its not) and the sooper bug would STILL see it first

A Super Hornet with a loadout isn’t going to have low enough RCS to evade an Su-35BM radar’s tracking. I’d imagine the Super Hornet could detect a Flanker at 130NM or so, while a Su-35BM Flanker could detect the Super Hornet from about 150NM, using the popular graphs.

It would be fair game with BARS equipped Flanker vs Super Hornet in a most basic scenario.

No, it’s Su-35BM training simulator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zxMp7HrMYA

The reporter says “simulator of the 5th generation fighter”

unless you are claiming it’s bad journalism, in which case, what’s your evidence?

no, it’s radar signature is and always will be ginormous

if it tries to turn on jammers, well the opponent will simply thank them for precisely guiding their HOJ weapons

There is no guarantee those HOJ weapons will even work against a new Russian jammer. Or do the Russians send their latest ones via FedEx down to Raytheon so they can make their AIM-120s futureproof? LOL! 😀

And its “ginormous” radar signature won’t make a different if the Flanker picks up the SH first with its radar. And that’s what’s likely going to happen considering a BARS equipped Flanker, not even going to go to a newer variant like the Su-35BM.