Most of the spectators in front of TVs (practically all, me too) think that the broadcast was very weak as a journalistic product. I don’t want to say anything against Su-35BM or it’s cockpit or so, by saying that the broadcast is BS. Nevertheless, i repeat, there are good pictures and footage of Su-35BM and other stuff in it.

You don’t know what you are saying, do you? 😀

I believe these ships were set on fire byu Russian troops who entered the city of Poti. The burning missile boat is the Tbilissi.

It is still not knwn which ship was sunk at sea the other day. Possibly, one of the ex-Greece COMBATANTE missile boats???

The burning boat has a huge gaping hole in dead center of it . . .

News saying the Ukrainians ‘imposing restrictions on Russias black sea fleet’ – does that mean no more basing rights?

Russian’s foreign exchange reserve, quickly becoming the 2nd largest after China with almost $600billion and some 100s of billions in the petroleum windfall fund. Can anyone explain why they can’t with a crash program build a naval port to just leave Ukraine. Because Ukraine has been worrying Russia with this basing problem, after all the money paid for that port basing is if I am not correct over $1 billion a year.

Oh it’s all been taken care of (or being taken care of).

The new naval base in Novorossiysk will be ready in 2012, and I’ve heard that this (or some other) base there is also functioning for some purposes.

Actually, this video on your link ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCiVKJ5VjE4 ) is a part of a quite unsuccessful broadcast on RTR-Planeta russian channel few month ago. The broadcast was named “The secrets of the 5-th generation fighter” 😀 and was fullfilled with wrong structured sentences and information (to say). And also no secrets at all were revealed about PAK-FA 😀 . It is practically about Su-35BM and has some good video footage, nothing more.
From another viewpoint however, there were (semi)official claims that “the cockpit of the 5-th G fighter was already demonstrated … “, so it may be very (or even one-to-one) similar to that of Su-35BM.

Ti fignu polnuyu nesesh?

Find a link that’s not four years old! Currently Georgia does not operate either the S-75 or S-200. There are some S-125s still around, and the Buk/Tor systems. But the 75s and 200s have been gone for a while. The state of disrepair that most of the S-75 and S-200 sites are in does back this up as well. Were Georgia to reintegrate an S-200 battery, since they do have a prepared site available, they’d need components from somewhere as theirs were taken out of service due to obsolescence (suggesting an early version). Ukraine, given the nature of the political situation, is a potential source.

What makes you say they are/were gone?

If the link was from like 1994, I’d agree with you 90%, right now, I’m skeptical.

As i said in my original post if you had read it properly i used the wording “seeming failure” as in from what i can tell, never did i say its a fact that X% of armour made it out alive, i also pointed out that at the end of the conflict much Georgian armour still seems intact, how much i don’t know but obviously a fair old bit has survived, i don’t see what the problem is, its clear alot of armour escaped so just accept that as its not my fault so no point ranting at me about it.

all i have done is make an observation about the lack of armour destroyed,

What is your observation based on? You, or anyone here, have nothing to go on to make any real speculation on PREDICTED losses.

Yes because writing to Mr Putin is sure to get me an answer, you need to chill out dude, all i have done is make an observation about the lack of armour destroyed, i was not saying the Russian airforce is wrong for failing to impress me, rather that it was unexpected that they seemingly failed to inflict any serious casualties on the Georgian armour, i’m sorry if you have a problem with that but thats how i view the use of airpower so far in the conflict. You are of course entitled to your own opinion and i won’t shout you down for having it like you have to me.

Lack of armor destroyed? This is based on something you made up in front of your PC? Or are you in SO/Georgia at this moment?

Personally I find this all a bit fascinating from one specific aspect: this is the first time in recent air warfare (i.e. post-Vietnam) that a truly modern, capable SAM system has been employed in combat. From the way it sounds, the Buk would appear to be proving itself as a very capable system. It sounds like they actually managed to smack a Tu-22MR with one, not an M3. If Russia is to be believed (and in this case why not, they aren’t hiding the story) then the BACKFIRE was flying a recon sortie, which implies an MR not an M3. That also makes you wonder why an MR was used instead of an Su-24MR, but that’s another issue. The point is that regardless of the variant, the BACKFIRE does have a decent ECM fit, and if they got it with an SA-11 then that speaks very highly of the missile system.

Some claimed it was an S-200, which seems feasible considering the Backfire was probably not going very fast during the mission.