We all know what a “Chinese casino” really is 🙂
The problem are two:
First to get a fix on the Carrier in the first place, that is not an easy task with Hawkeye spotting whatewer gets even remotely close, growler messing up whatever your recon trying to see, and lastly interceptors downing anything that gets close enough to have a chanse to identify the Carrier.Secondly the Hawkeye will direct fighters/strikers before a platform (be it a/c or ship) gets close enough to launch that yakhont swarm.
There need to be a bunch of stealthy unmanned aerial vehicles avaliable ready for a kamikaze attack before this can be done.
But but but . . .
Maybe the attacker has its own AWACS, with interceptors covering the attacking force, with its own ECM platforms and its own long range bombers with very long range AShMs.
And maybe since this isn’t some stupid scenario where the US attempts to pull off a pearl harbor on someone else, the enemy would actually have a good idea of where the carrier is based on simple logic.
What exactly is implied by a “superbroadband” radar?
Friendly fire happens.
The US shot up its own tanks in Desert Storm, for example.
Well the level of informative posting might be going down, but at least it’s a more fun stay than a forum like militaryphotos.net with wannabe weekend soldier Nazi moderators and admins. . .
You really must try to use better sources than Wikipedia.
There is nothing of sorts that I mentioned on Wikipedia.
Development of the original Zaslon started in the mid to late 70s. That piece of junk had all sorts of issues with reliability. It was also such a badly designed radar that so much RF leaked from the side lobes that you where just as likely to fry your wing man’s electronics as you where detect an enemy. This radar was no match for the AW9-G much less the AWG-71. In fact it’s shortcomings against the AW9-Gis what caused the development of Zaslon M(?).
Garbage. Evidence or GTFO.
A truly wonderful radar that can detect targets at around 200km and give itself away at around 400km. Real useful in combat.
Evidence? The Zaslon-M could detect targets upto 400KM, slightly less perhaps.
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Five of six missiles hit their targets and the 6th missile was a near miss and was dubbed a kill if an active warhead had been used.
And how well did they do against ECM or even when 2 of them didn’t hit a thing in Desert Storm?
It is a cited fact that the ability to transmit at different frequencies enabled the AW9-G to guide more than one SARH missile at a time. Again you confuse it with Russian junk.
Garbage. Evidence or GTFO. You’ve been counter-argued by like 3 people on this now.
Study geometry and RF propagation before you comment on target separation. Again the proof is in the pudding in the actual missile tests. The F-14, AW9-G, Phoenix combination successfully engaged six separate targets at various altitudes and bearings.
Yeah and what were those numbers? The altitudes were not that far apart at all.
Too bad these little things like facts tend to ruin your argument.
You are a misinformed kid who has a grudge against anything Russian. Sad life I take it. 😀
The F-14 could launch with six Phoenix but only land with four. The Navy was not going to risk having to jettison two million dollar missiles in peacetime.
Oh and before we go comparing Russian radars with AW9-G lets not forget that the AW9-G was developed in the late 60s and fielded in the early 70s. When you start comparing the Zaslon compare it to the APG-71.
Zaslon development started in 1968. That’s same gen as AWG-9. Don’t kid yourself haha! 😀
The 6 missiles never found their targets either, nor was the F-14 truly ever intended to fire 6 missiles. Hell, the Phoenix didn’t hit squat in the 90s did it?
It could only guide 1 AIM-7, which means it’s highly inferior for the purposes of guiding SARH missiles.
And you are as usual totally missing the point on the target distance separation. Sure, the AWG-9 had SOME ability to engage spread out targets, but you do realize that the mechanical array was severely limited in its altitude dispersion engagement compared to a PESA array?
Sigh, buddy you really don’t have your facts straight. Why don’t you come back after you’ve done your research?
How did MiG-31 manage to track four semi-active guided AAMs at the same time, then? I’d say it was probably one of the specific PESA features – it could probably do with SARH missiles what slotted radars only could do with ARH types. :confused:
Essentially yes.
The AWG-9 was limited severely in its ability to fire multiple Phoenixes when targets were at varying altitudes due to the fact that it was a mechanical array. The 6 Phoenix load was really marketing more than anything, Tomcats never operationally could carry more than 4. AFAIK, they couldn’t even land on the carrier with 6 Phoenixes.
The N007, being a PESA, and having a ton of raw power could focus at targets at fairly varying altitudes.
Wrong comrade. You once again show how truly clueless you are.
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/AWG-9_and_APG-71_radars
Further the AWG-9 had to demonstrate the ability to shoot down six targets before it was accepted to the Navy. The you tube video was truncated but it is a documented fact that the system has brought down six targets during testing.
The Zaslon radar is a joke when compared to the AWG-9 which was a product of 60s technology and compared to the upgraded 80’s version of the AWG-9, the APG-71, it was totally obsolete.
Your comments about the AWG-9 not being much ahead of it’s contemporaries is laughable. Let me know what other 60’s generation fighter radar could track 24 targets out to over 100 nmi with all weather look up and look down capability. Hell the current state of the art in non American fighter radars, CAPTOR approximates the 80’s vintage APG-71 in overall capability.
Thats enough reality for today. Got to go plow the north 40 and cook some shine.
Flex hosed your non-sense argument pretty good kiddo.
Stop the AWG-9 masturbation and get a grip of reality please.
Hey … that’s realy good new’s for Sukhoi !
But just to note: 48 isn’t 50 !?? :diablo:
Deino
48 + 2 that are already there = 50
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Where’s Scooter and the rest of the wanks that kept saying the RuAF wasn’t getting anything 😉
Hey … that’s realy good new’s for Sukhoi !
But just to note: 48 isn’t 50 !?? :diablo:
Deino
48 + 2 that are already there = 50
http://www.royfc.com/acft_news.html
Air Force to Receive 50 Newest Su-35 Multirole Fighters before 2015
The Russian Federation defense ministry has adopted a decision to purchase 48 Su-35 multirole fighters for the air force, a highly placed representative of the Russian military authority reported, the Interfax agency reports.
“We are ordering 48 of the newest Su-35 fighters from the Sukhoy company. They will be adopted into the inventory before 2015. It is planned that deliveries will start as early as 2011,” the agency source reported.
He noted that it is planned to announced the contract officially on one of the first days of the operation of the MAKS-2009 International Air and Space Salon which will take place from 18 through 23 August in the Moscow suburb of Zhukovskiy.
Source: 07.07.09, Avia.RU
That article is pretty amusing. The US got rid of it’s Peacekeepers but Russia still has loads of SS-18s so who actually got the shaft? Seriously though, Russia could build as many as it wants, “Teh 0ne” has already decided to let the US nuclear forces rot. Why should Russia give up anything when they can get the same by giving up nothing? If I were Putin (you know, the guy in charge) I’d tell Bambi to f— himself.
Hahaha, like most thick American reporters / news agencies / chauvinists, you don’t understand that US democracy isn’t how other democracies are.
Too hard to grasp concept of “president” and “prime minister” for some people I guess.
:rolleyes:
Why not just sell them the much vaunted F-35? :rolleyes:
Bulava with that little throw weight doesn’t seem to even come close to a Trident D-5 in delivery capability.