This is in Russian , Can any one please translate these two news and put it up in brief
Thanks

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2009/06/26/torpedo/

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2009/06/26/kursk/

Briefly read these, will translate after I get some sleep.

Most interesting news was that there was discussion that Belgorod might get the “long range new armament of the Severodvinsk” – aka the Kh-101.

IMO, not not the greatest idea 🙁

I’d rather see a modernized Granit.

Leave the Kh-555/101 business to the bomber force or the Typhoons.

The folding-fin Kh-58 that has been seen may have been developed with a Skat-type UCAV in mind. I’m not sure we know precisely what weapons are to be employed by the PAK-FA at any rate.

It was clearly said to have been designed for “Istribitel Pyatogo pokoleniya” – aka “the 5th gen fighter”

Yes, because low RCS aircraft never operate at low level :rolleyes:

Sorry, I never heard of any F-117s flying around like A-10s. . . :rolleyes:

You said. “There is no proof the ALR-94 will work against ECM either.”

It has been tested vs the best ECM systems in the world. If it was somehow insufficient or ineffective you can bet that the makers of those ECM systems would be very focal about how their system beat the ALR-94. 😉

Except that they haven’t had much intention to actually beat the ALR-94.

And again, where are these results and tests?

Guarantee?

This word confuses you? Or rather, the “lack of” guarantee that the ALR-94 could actually even successfully engage an advanced ECM system with an AMRAAM.

Point being that you are making a big deal about how great the PAK-FA will be in 2020 while ignorning how much better the F-22 will be in 2020 than it is today.

Umm no. You are missing the point. Around 2020, you can expect PAK-FA modernization to take effect too.

I just copied & pasted your text. So I guess you are debunking yourself now. 🙂

What? You mentioned a bogus IRST – that doesn’t exist

And then you want to talk about the PAK-FA IRST, which we know nothing about at this point. Except that it will definitely be better than the OLS-35 on the MiG-35 / Su-35 aircraft.

Russia doesn’t have the budget to best the F-22.

By Russia’s own admission, it is 7-8 years behind the US in avionics developement/capability (you can bet that US avionics developers/manufacturers see the gap somewhat wider) & IIRC Pogosyan has admitted that the PAK-FA stealth is closer to that of the F-35 than the F-22.

My general thought is that the PAK-FA may have similar flight performance (possibly superior in some respects but definately inferior in others) as the F-22 with stealth similar to the F-35 & avioncs similar to the APG-63(V)3 [possibly APG-63(V)4/APG-82] air-to-air but how close air-to-ground depends on how much emphasis is put on air-to-ground.

Russia also doesn’t waste as much money as the US does. They CAN best the F-22, maybe not in every aspect, but enough to make it as good if not better.

The PAK-FA is going to carry weapons like the Kh-58 folding fin ARM variants, so it’s going to have very good A2G options.

Beat me to it UAZ.

Here’s the R-74 mockup!

Still can’t find the R-77 replacement number.

Deeply sorry for the broken links, forgot the fact that they’re not directly accessible.
All credits, snake65 said, go to CrazyMk. I thought that mentioning the airbase resource would be enough, but one’s never sure 😉

edi helped – thanks to him btw!

And nice pic find 😉 So thanks to you too.

K-MD is supposed to be a totally new design.

Izedeliye 760 is based on R-74/K-74.

Yes, what I mean is, it serves the same purpose.

Close to close-medium range (30 – 40KM) IR missile with ultra-high maneuverability and helmet capability.

Izdeliye 180-PD is 180KM range, the R-37M is 300KM without booster. Any R-37M upgrade would be 33+ % more range than the ramjet medium range missiles.

Why doesn’t the Su-35 have these improvements, if A- they’re important and B- they’re in anywhere near production status?

Let’s see – simple reason.

The 5th gen engine design is NOT in service yet?

While we don’t know how good LPI is against future systems, it has been used to good effect against current advanced systems. As for ECM- the ALR-94 will detect a fighter that’s emitting any type of jamming, regardless of how the APG-77 works against it.

There is no proof the ALR-94 will work against ECM either. Surely if you can figure this out, so can the people designing Sorbtsiya pods, and internal Russian jammers.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.

Replying to your bogus comment.

1) Who cares what the US operates? They invading Russia soon?

2) The US and other operate plenty of 4+ gen and huge type aircraft like tankers, AWACS, etc.

Where did I say PAK FA? It’s not flying right now, so all I can compare is current threat aircraft, which will spend most of their time at M .8 or .9, and most likely in the 35-45k feet range.

This is a PAK-FA thread, what are you doing talking about other threats?

The AIM-120D/D+ and AIM-9X Block II will be in service prior to those weapons, and the JDRADM will be in service within the decade.

Umm let’s see.

1) What’s the evidence the AIM-120D and AIM-9X block 2 will be in service significantly earlier? None.

2) JDRADM = Russian 5th gen “vaporware” in your terms. :rolleyes:

We can discuss them when they actually exist, as it’s a waste of time to argue over vaporware capabilities.

Once again, the JDRADM is as much vaporware as the 5th gen Russian weapons, which should be in service around 2015 when serial PAK-FA production starts.