Are we discussing a ship over here.. ??
End of LCA ? NO… Too much of investment and offshoots coming along..
Reduced Numbers??? YES
No matter what..
240 MKI
126 MRCA
xxx PAKFA
these do not give IAF numbers that it wants.. A 40 combat sqd at 18 per sqd requirement alone puts the numbers at 720… and this is way below their sanctioned 55 combat sqd
I think what IAF is doing with LCA is like asking for a Gripen NG like capability to boot (Just a perspective and nothing else to compare) and I believe there’s nothing bad in doing that.. One thing I would have really loved to see was bringing in more private co-operation in the production technologies and management.. It might have helped..
BTW.. IAF has reviewed the refueller proposals from Airbus and Ilyushin. the decision is awaited..
First.. I think that bringing PAF and it’s decisions are not going important to this discussion at least..
Second.. Kaduna/Abhimanyu.. I would agree and disagree with both of you on different points.. LCA effort has been mis-managed.. BUT not grossly looking at how we started theoretically with ground zero.. and both ADA and IAF are responsible for it.. MCA as of now is just in the concept stage.. IAF has not yet had a formal meeting with ADA/HAL on this concept as of now..
What I believe IAF is going to do is wait, analyze and concentrate on MRCA bids. This would give them tons of knowledge on the operational technologies available and their lack there off with the IAF.. Remember that IAF is also exploring more and more on it’s operational role.. The definition is not yet clear.. a massive doctrinal shift is also in place.. IAF has started looking into the Strategic Transport aircrafts, new generation Tankers, new EW assets and their deployment tactics.. all these and more when come together would help in working out the LCA/MCA employment in the IAF doctrine in future.. who knows IAF might defer the MCA requirement for another 10 years and ask for a unmanned MCA altogether when the technologies would have matured..
Venky.. No one knows.. I would prefer to believe when they would have actually integrated and flown it in LCA.. 🙂
Jsut love the stance of the 76’s.. beautiful aircrafts…
the plane looks obsolete…. remind me to early mirage III :diablo:
Hmm.. devils advocate 😀
To me it looks like a lot of flying things.. you know it has those tires.. those round things on which it rolls on the runway.. it has protruding metal at both sides.. looks a lot like wings on other aircrafts.. as with all fighters.. it’s A$$ also burns.. and I have seen it in the air like other aircrafts too.. some kid just copied it from something flying objects like aircrafts.. 😮
Also, on other threads there’s talk about the MCA taking its first flight next year??? Am I really reading this right??? How do the indians expect to fly the MCA next year considering all the problems the’ve had with the LCA????
Unles of course the indians and Russians have been secretly developing the PAK-FA for some time?
Adil.. I am saying that MCA will fly tomorrow June 17’th at 8:00AM.. Local Time.. OK.. now let’s all of us get into the bandwidth busting discussion about it will fly or it will fly not.. because of this.. that.. etc. etc… only because I said it right now… etc.. etc.. 😀
C’Mon Yaar.. 🙂
This is uncalled for. Don’t you get it “40% by weight and 90% by surface composite thingy”, next only to F-22.
I mean how many times is that need to repeat here!!
Surprised ?? but then, thats is how DRDO market it to gullible.
Remember LCA first flight in 1991 with induction in air force in 1994:D
Donno.. why use of composites is always associated with the reduction of weight.. in couple of cases use of composites would lead to the increase in weight compared to the usage of alloys as titanium or aluminum.. because it would all depend on the stress/weight factor etc..
Check this thread..
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1250001#post1250001
BTW.. about Pitot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitot-static_system
Something about Pitot tube locations
http://www.ch601.org/resources/pitot-static/pitot.htm
We have a question out here ..
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=81006
Would be great if this corvette can get 2 NH-90’s instead of the Seakings..
Believe it’s coming soon..
http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1209725934.html
So when are we having the first flight for this aircraft.. Delays in aircraft programs is becoming the norm of the day now it seems.. :confused:
I have a question guys…
This corvette is designed by the Directorate of Naval Design Bureau, so they must be having a goal (Anti-Submarine Warfare) and would know how the vessel has to be deployed, than why are we insisting that it should also have Anti Ship missiles etc.. We have a tendency of making every ship a multi role one it seems.
I believe we would have to know more about the acoustic signature reduction methods employed in this vessel as well as the kind of sonar and countermeasures it has on board. Would also like to know about the kind of torpedoes it would carry. Remember that this vessel’s primary threat comes from underwater than the surface ships.
One HAWK down… no casualty..
http://livefist.blogspot.com/
Indian Navy is moving on to the ghost gray color scheme.. you can check their Sea Harriers
You can see them moving on to the new lighter shades in this
From..
http://www.acig.org/exclusives/viraat/viraat_2.htm
Do you have more of the new Mig-29K images.. This bird is coming up well on paper atleast..