No, those seperate roles came from very real threat from the western countries of the world. The numbers involved actually made them viable… if they only needed a few dozen of each aircraft then it might have been a problem but with hundreds required their choice of matching the aircraft to the role has led to a variety of aircraft that can be bought to a role. Big countries like China and India and perhaps Brazil can look at Flankers, while smaller countries can go for smaller aircraft (ie Mig). No other country has the threat of bombers and cruise missiles to the scale that the Soviets did, though the Australians could probably use 2-3 dozen for patrol purposes if they weren’t so far up the US’s butt. But then they have no threat serious enough to warrant the cost anyway.
There was no real threat. It was just presented in inflated form. This just one of example.
[Learn history before commenting like this.. ]
Is the Il-80 ‘Maxdome’ operational??
Or has it been put out of service..
Why you have to look back wards to justify future decisions. Su-27 generous fuel capacity provide more use of after burner and hence better chance of rapid response over greater area.
Every thing is becoming multi role and verstile. The thing is to think ahead of time.
That’s the reason Russian Airforce is moving on to limited types…. with more multirole aircrafts now..
USAF/USN etc are doing this too..
21 and 23 were severely restricted to the GCI ..
29 was a radical solution to break out of the overly dependence on the GCI’s
SOC.. it has to go like this..
21(Fast climb rate, manouverable)->23(First BVR)->29(Overall Higher performance with autonomous flexibility in combat)
Let’s not bring in economics in picture guys… This is a big can of worms.. which we should not try to open in this thread atleast.. we can move on to General Discussion Forum for that..
Srbin… Mig-29 was used to punch holes in the NATO frontline screen during any adventure especially in the German region.. 27’s were to escort the Russian bomber regiments..
31’s were to tackle the NATO’s bomber and cruise missile threat..
and 25 came before 27…. and 29 came before 27..
I was pointing to the fact the large nose size of Su-32 derived from Su-27 as some members have mentioned that large size of MIG-31 is impossible or difficult to customize for Su-27 series aircraft.
Even if the radar could be accomodated… it does’nt mean that 31 was pointless.. 31 was a further development of the 25 in service.. and how and why they were developed .. you would have to understand the soviet doctrine of airpower.. there bases in the west USSR… there bases in WARSAW.. etc.. growth of NATO and it’s assets.. regimental structure in the soviet era..
Even today long range interception is the job of the 25/31 regiments in Russia and not the 27’s…
Development of Su-32 from Su-27 platform shows possibility was there they didnot plan it at earlier time.
Then Mig-25 entered service much before Su-27 …
Mig-31 entered service long time back..
Where as Su-32 is still not in service..
Su-27 cannot do what 25/31 can..
Mig-25 was a superb high speed, high altitude recon platform.. and was the only interceptor capable of dealing with SR-71…
Mig-25 became operational much before 29/T-10
star49.. when you think of 29.. think of the soviet timeperiod and there bases at that point of time.. what was there military doctrine at that point of time.. think of there bases in east germany.. there regiments etc.. and T-10 project faced a lot of problems during development in comparison to 29 which was kind of a smooth affair in it’s development.. both were quite a radical designs by soviet standards of that time..
Srbin.. Mig-29 and T-10 were forwarded for LFF:Light Frontal Fighter (Logikii Frontovoi Istrebityel) .. actually this requirement came as a direct counter to the F-15 that had already been launched(1965).. This was earlier known as Prospective Frontal Fighter or Perspektivnii Frontovoi Istrebityel).. for this 3 bureaus submitted there proposal.. Yakolev left earlier.. with Su (T-10) and Mig (29) left.. Initially both were quite similar in there designs.. quite similar configuration..
Now on an interesting note.. just as F-16 came in picture for USAF .. spawned as a cheaper/lightweight fighter compared to F-15.. looking at this development Gleb Lozino submitted the proposal for lightweight 29 … and T-10 as a heavier variant.. under (TPFI… Tyazhoi… heavy)….
Now talking of engines etc.. remember that before the 29.. it was the 23 that was doing the job.. they were single engines.. and 29 was BIG radical change in the Russian air doctrine where they atleast thought of giving autonomy to the pilot in seat..
yaar.. it’s a lot of information.. I suggest getting some good books of historic development in the field of airpower would help…
Stupid Decision would definetely be of going for two aircrafts in Europe..
Rafael and Eurofighter.. although none are hopeless.. but atleast one is pointless.. anyone..