Related to the ground. I thought that Marines wanted a plane that could follow advancing troups in-land and in situations where airfields were not available or to dangerous to operate from.
Don’t think any Air Forces have planned on doing that since the RAF in Germany in the 80’s with its Harriers.
As I recall the OHP’s were eventually bought from the US for less by the Fraser government. Four were built in the US and two were built in Australia.
But much less capable then the DDL’s were projected to be.
For Starters.
5″ –> 3″
2 x Phalanx –> 1 x Phalanx
~5,000t –> ~4,000t
2 shafts –> 1 shaft
At the end of the day, is it any different than not being invited to tender?
The A400 and its engine come to mind.
Yes, its different, preparing a tender costs a lot of money.
C-17. They’re about as comperable as the 767 and A330. 😉
Err, bigger difference between A400M and C17 then there is between 767 and A330, quite a lot more difference, especially in costs….
Was there competition for the A400?
Remember, it’s a two way street.:D
Between A400M and what? :rolleyes:
Reverting to the original name of this thread for a moment – and bypassing the radar geeks for a minute – Sky TV News announced the first flight would be delivered from California via Hawaii and Auckland (in NZ I believe), to then overfly Canberra (for politicians’ benefit) and recover to Amberley, I think 23 March.
Could be 4 or 5 aircraft – the first ones accepted have been A44-202 (Bu 167958) to A44-206 (Bu 167962). I would guess A44-201 is being retained in US in the short term for OT&E.
Five I believe. News on TV was talking about five.
Remember the Leopard 1 promise? As long as a at least one F-111C is retired to a museum….
One F-111G and one F-111C will apparrently go to the RAAF Museum, I hope the rest get scrapped. It wouldn’t do them justice to see them Rust away like the Canberra’s in the Paddock down the road from Amberly.
RAAF did not seriously consider an Su-30 purchase for even a second. Reason = politics and you know it, too.
No, the reason is that the Su-30 is not compatible with our current (in inventory) and future weapons and systems. Eg. Wedgetail, ASRAAM, AMRAAM etc.
Its not about the individual platform, but about the system as a whole.
Edit: oh, and Russian airframes tend to have higher maintenance costs and lower airframe fatigue hours allowable.
Yes I read this today too…. am gutted they would destroy these old birds..
One would look nice in my back yard!
Nah, they have to dump a stripped out example on Kopps front lawn so he and Mr Goon can play “fighter pilot”.
You answered them all in a much more polite way than I would have.
It seems as if the Aussie Administration is running through the same identity crisis that blindfolded the Canadian Cretin Administration with the Sikorsky ASW dazzle.:diablo:
Except I think the OP stated it was a German Army report, not Australian Army. :diablo:
Typhoons wouldn’t stray too far out of the Falklands EEZ IMO which would mean that sneaky civvie vessels would have to have come into it already, thus incurring the wrath of the Royal Navy and of which the Typhoons would have been notified. Ships take much longer to position than aircraft.
And there is the cost and sneakiness of buying Russian SAMs and equipping them onto the civilian vessels (which is some kind of war crime isn’t it? Disguising a military vessel as a civvie – it’s the kind of thing the Taliban do.)
And there is no guarantee that the SAMs will work, based on engagement range, Typhoon defensive aids etc. And you’d have to do it all without anyone getting suspicious of several civilian vessels suddenly appearing and loitering in/near Falklands waters for a while. It’d probably attract the on duty Frigate, which means they’d either have to withdraw or equip with AShMs too.
Fairly sure they can do whatever they like as long as its flying the Argentine flag. 😉
I doubt they are lacking:p. The 2 commando “companies” are actually slightly larger then an SAS sabre squadron in manpower the same with the Navy and Marine’s SOF and the A-A-R is large too. That and Australia’s SOF are set up to compensate somewhat for the lack of elite light infantry units (no Marines, Rangers ect) they have even gotten rid of their para Battalion :mad::confused:
2 Comdo took over the theatre entry role, and apparrently there are still para-qual’d troops in 3 RAR, just not the whole battalion.
While the Argentines still have paras and marines…
RAN has its Clearance Divers…. Actually not sure how Regular Infantry Training in Australia would compare to that of Argentina, Australian Army has more money to spend on training….
Anyway the Argies could always just do like the Brits had planned in 82, crash land a herkybird or 2 onto the airbase in the Falklands and try to take out the place:diablo::D
It has to get there without being shot down first.
Well I don’t know the exact defence situation at MPA but I would bet fences, CCTV, thermal cameras, regular dog patrols, foot patrols by the Regiment and possibly even ground radar (http://www.drs.com/PDF/DataSheets/MSTAR%20web.pdf). Of course thats even before you get on the base, I would recon there is close protection of the QRA sheds with the Typhoon being moved between different ones to keep things nice and confusing.
Which would have to be just about accurate enough to give targeting data for an artillery or mortar strike.
The one area the Argentine military is not lacking, 2 commando companies (601st/602nd similar in role to the SAS)
APBT, about company sized combat swimmers, SEAL like ect
APCA, the marines special operation coampany
the 601st air assault regiment, Ranger types. Only formed in 2003.
Plus the usual regular marines and para’s and a few other SOF’s that probably wouldn’t be used in a Falklands assault type deal (AF, paramilitary ect.
Yeah, they are lacking. :p
Even Australia has three battalions worth taking into account SAS, 1 Cmdo & 2 Cmdo.
Not that it matters, you can get maybe a squad ashore, at the risk of being detected by whichever trafalgar or swiftsure and whichever frigate is on station.
Who cares? UK has their veto, as does France who also have overseas territories in south america.