The current title includes the words “Mine” and “Countermeasures” I believe.
IMO, They should be a stretched Clyde with a hanger, a crane, and a pair of mini-typhoon mounts on either side of the super structure.
You can store either a helicopter or MCM clearence robots or USV’s in the hanger, with the crane to deploy the MCM gear.
Edit: If you DO want a mini C2/C1 though and are feeling ambitious you could leave space forward to bolt in the army version of CAMM and weight margin for a better radar up top. You could also add in a designated area for a TAS under the flight deck if you really wanted too. Its only air. 😉
Sounds like this is the second phase of the Army’s inter-service strike campaign. First was Dannat with his absurdities and now we see a more ‘moderated and reasonable’ press leak that sees the army keep most of its capability. That based on the back of an Afghan campaign that the other services have already noted has a finite timeline.
Dont think this one quite rings true.
The RN could certainly offer up the remaining 42’s for 5 hulls, but, for the next few years the T22B3’s (presumably the other 4 in our noble sacrifice) will be needed for their C3 facilities not to mention a few less well-publicised tasks they are well outfitted for.
Dropping even the 42’s wouldn’t come without a price either – losing 5 hulls would likely see one of our permanent taskings dropped. Seeings we cant drop APT(N) or (S) it would likely have to be a NATO slot or the IO tasking. Thats going to cause some ripples with the less well-off nations asking why we are shirking our duty!.
Maybe, and maybe not. As far as I am aware, Daring hasnt had a deployment yet.
Jim,
I was reading an Article earlier today that stated that the Production rate for Typhoon will max out at 50 airframes per year across all the purchasing nations.
Even assuming the UK gets 1/4 (12 airframes per year), that is probably half a squadrons allocation of aircraft (once you take into account maintenance etc). At the moment the RAF has a total of two operational Typhoon squadrons plus an OCU and plus one more standing up.
Is that even enough to look after UK QRF if the last remaining Tornado squadron is disbanded, let alone leave 8 aircraft for an afghan deployment?
I’m guessing Tornado GR.4 will stay, at least for now until afghanistan winds down, even if the number of operational units decreases. And by then the UK should be in a better financial position if the Government can spend wisely.
I think the aim would be that the RAF would have 107 Typhoon’s plus another 90 odd F-35B’s (to bring the total number just under 200, and I suspect includes those slated to operated by the FAA).
What, the 90 odd F-35B’s wont be entering service in numbers for about another decade? So you want to draw down you capacity then build it back up again? Not cheap to re-establish a capability once its been lost, plus as Bombers not much matches the GR.4’s, not to mention that if you have to replace them in A-stan with Harriers again you wont have any harriers left in 5 years or so.
The Typhoon is not in service in anywhere close to high enough numbers for an overseas deployment.
The cuts to the RAF listed above would put its combat force only slightly larger then that of the RAAF.
The ADF has roughly 1/3 the budget of the UK Military.
HMS Daring damaged after colliding with tug
HMS Daring,The Royal Navy’s brand new destroyer, has been damaged after crashing into a tug on her way into port.
The Type 45 destroyer – hailed by the navy as the most advanced warship in the world – was returning from routine operations when the collision happened.
She struck the civilian vessel Switzer Sussex on her way into Marchwood, on Southampton Water in Hampshire.
It is believed the tug lost power to its engines as it was about to start towing the 7,500 tonne Portsmouth-based ship into Marchwood. As the warship approached, it was therefore unable to move out of the way.
An inquiry has been launched and the precise extent of the damage to HMS Daring has yet to be established.
A Royal Navy spokesman said: “The damage at the moment is still being assessed, and we won’t have any further information until that assessment is completed.
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Pranged it already? 😮
I guess that wont be something the Captain and OOW would have wanted on their CV.
Fair enough seeing as how the crew were all locked safely away where the Pirates couldn’t get them.
Good job by the Marines, I would hope that the Royal Marines, RAN Boarding Parties etc can all do the job when required as well.
If you can’t even keep the place clean, how are you supposed to keep it going if it gets a couple of artillery shells put through the side, or even a couple of RPG’s?
What is the projected production cost of the LCS hull and then thereafter the individual module costs?
We don’t know. From memory the projected cost was $300 Million, but a redesign mid construction made the R & D vessels more expensive.
Once 3 & 4 hit the water we’ll probably have a better idea how much they cost.
For reference though, a Full Aegis System was quoted as $700 Million in the FMS documentation for Australia’s AWD systems.
The biggest downside of the LCS. Is the cost of the platform, especially given how basic it is without Mission modules fitted.
Because the modules are not exactly cheap either.
I believe thats called showing off. And pointing out to the Russians that they arent as good as they might think they are.
Lord Jim.
Not exactly correct. F-35B’s aboard the carriers will have the task of Fleet Air Defense.
Air Tanker can be canned, but the RAF would still need Tankers, so it might be a bit cheaper, but not by too much.
The MOD cancels the F-35B and Lockheed Martin cancels the “rear fuselage” package currently being built by British Aerospace in Samiesbury.
Remember the MOD has already investigated millions in the F-35 program and that will all be lost.
Sounds to me like canceling the F-35B and buying the “cheaper” F-18 is a lose lose situtition for the British taxpayers.
Contracts have been signed, if LM breaks the contracts, the amount of money they would have to pay for BAe would probably be enormous.
The contracts were placed based on merit, not neccessarily how much the partner nation has spent on development.
As for Trident, the UK currently only LEASES a bunch of US Trident II D5 missiles, armed with UK owned, Uk-engineered warheads expected to last to the 2020 at least.
Not exactly true. The UK purchased the rights to a number of Trident missiles (50-60 IIRC). These missiles rotate through the US Maintenance system rather then being maintained in the UK as it is cheaper. The reason I say they purchased the rights rather then the missiles, is because the individual missiles that they have at any one time, could by any missile in the entire inventory of Trident D5 missiles.
However the UK OWNS those missiles.