OK, who’s had it?
From the NGRM forum:
Well the mystery may be solved but the plot has thickened. I have it on good authority that the tyre may well be off a Wellington bomber that crashed into the cliffs on November 9th 1940. However, I bumped into a neighbour who was very excited as he’d seen half a dozen men wheeling a huge trye up the beach and into a van. Sure enough, all I find was a murky hole and a single tyre track.
As far as I know, a group from Redhill took it away and I am waiting for a contact so I can at least get an acknowledgment for finding it. I wonder if treasure trove applies?
Richard
The thingy appears to be part NRV, part flow restrictor.
Flow restrictors on fuel pump outlets do very odd things. I can remember a copper pipe that was smoking hot downstream of an orifice
Richard
WR963’s pumps are electric. We have a setup to test them (off aircraft) electrically and that they pump fuel through.
Regards,
Rich
I wonder why they don’t fail on test? Do you pressurise them when testing
Richard
That report sounds pretty good – putting a Wellington with no fuel down in the sea at 03:45 in November, and getting everyone out
Richard
I need to catch up here.
In that image, there’s a banjo bolt to the left, and a thingy on the right. If there is no fuel fitting in the cover, one is the inlet and the other is the outlet. I don’t know which without knowing the pump rotation. In case it isn’t obvious, the pump pumps by carrying fuel around the outside of the gears in the empty teeth. The fuel can’t get back to the inlet because of the meshed teeth in the middle
Does the one on WR963 have an electric motor as well? If so, there should be tests that can be done off the aircraft
Richard
They are both positive displacement pumps. If you block the outlet on the gear pump, it will lock absolutely solid
Richard
Hmm – curiouser and curiouser
I’ve just taken the lid off a pump – marked up as a fuel pump.
It has steel gears inside, not fibre ones.
Do we have a mismatch of components perhaps?
Bruce
My comment ONLY applies to an impeller pump. With a positive displacement pump, like a piston or gear pump, blocking the outlet will increase pressure and load. Are you looking at a gear pump, or talking about the gears in the gearbox?
Richard
It would suggest that the problem lies within the gearbox, pump bearing or seal – not the fuel side
Richard
Thinking about it though, if the pump overpressures, it wouldn’t take much to slow the impeller down and with the motor fighting away at the other end of things, the gearbox is going to let go.
I’m late into this, so apologies if there is an element of sucking eggs
If these are impeller pumps, then blocking off the outlet reduces the load on the pump, not increases it. Maximum load is at maximum fuel delivery – with it blocked off the fuel travels around in the impeller going nowhere
We tested experimental Concorde impeller pumps that way – always start with the delivery side closed to spare the test rig
Richard
Could you e-mail me, Richard, via the link at foot of post?
Done
Richard
My joke sank without trace
Never mind. Some day it will be discovered on a beach by a man with a small dog
Richard
Apparently her name is Aggie
Richard
MORE: Dog measured as 45cm, rump to tip of nose (tail is unknown quantity)
Further evidence of size:
Will request size of human if required
Richard
Dog identified as ‘mainly Jack Russell type, not huge’. Report ends
Have requested dimensions if dog is compliant
Richard
I have a team of trained dog spotters on the case even as we speak
Richard