Brilliant thread, just came across it. My Grandad was on 84 Sqn in the late 40s and worked on Brigands for a time when they were stationed at Habbaniya in Iraq I believe. Unfortunately he suffered a stroke a few years ago and I can’t get much out of him regarding them, but I do have a few photos of them I’ll post on here. I think the one particular machine he serviced, RH817 I think ended up belly-landed in Somalia, which I ragged him about. SOmething to do with a hydraulic failure. As people pointed out, the Brigand did seem to have a few problems, despite being a mean looking beast!
Anyone else on here have ex- 84 Sqn family?
Here are the pics:


That is a cracker of a photo, Paddy, many thanks. I’ve only ever seen a very small photo of that, so to her see full size is great – cheers for that.
If anyone’s got anymore, that’s the kind of thing I’m after.
Definitely an interesting read, so true about the Spanish Civil War…high time that got some modern-day film treatment…can you imagine that.
Bumping this to see if anyone has any info on the Canberras. Here’s hoping.
Good find, Thunderbird, I actually bought them both over the last couple of years and learned a lot from them. They have formed a good chunk of the early material of the book I’m working on.
Hello again NS, unfortunately I was not able to establish any firm contacts for you yesterday. I did chat with a gentleman from the north west who was working on a Canberra rebuild project, which I believe may be for the BAe Heritage Team. He was a last minute addition to the hangar displays at Newark, but was not familiar with the Ethiopian Canberras; he may be returning for Cockpit-Fest next month and I’ll try to have more of a chat.
Later next week I’ll try and have a check in the Peter Green research files that are now housed in the NAM Archive. I did check them a while back for another Canberra enquiry but I don’t recall anything specific to those airframes; sadly his photographic collection was disposed of elsewhere!
Regards,
TO23
Hi TO23,
Thanks for looking into it regardless. I’ve been in touch with the BAe Heritage team again on this topic and they say they have a possible contact. But if you do hear anything in the meantime or come across anything in the NAM archive, that’s great. As I said, this is a rather obscure topic where it seems little material exists or was purposely removed or limited at the time for political reasons. But you never know what might turn up!
Would be nice to find that pic! But from what I’ve read, due to the political sensitivity surrounding the Ethiopian sale, very little photography seems to have been taken. BAC were under orders not to make a fuss about the sale, and they were purposely kept out of the SBAC air show for that reason. A real shame as it seems so little knowledge around them exists.
Hi Ned,
That sounds like the material I’m after, although some of those customers (namely Argentina, Chile and Ethiopia) came from the 1967-1982 period. And several other marks were involved aside from the B.6. The Ethiopian deal, which is the one I’m focusing on more at the moment, was confirmed in 1967 and the four Canberras were delivered in late 1968. Would your father still been at BAC then, and in what capacity did he work for them?
Good (or rather, sad) to know there were such limits back then on photography. Understandable, but I thought it was worth a shot on the off-chance someone snapped one flying around either of those locations. Ref the IPMS photos, yep, most of those are from BAe Heritage themselves, and I have them all. The 351 test flight seems to the only one they did air-to-air shots for (that we know of) but not seen anything of the other 3 Cans, barring a shot of 352 in primer with Matra rocket pods fitted. I have a handful of very rare pics taken in Ethiopia itself, but still scouring for more.
They are great- they sent me some good stuff over the years on this topic. I’ll see if they can help with the ex-workers angle too.
Yes, I have that one, it’s a good book. Most photos are from the test flight series, but there’s a chance someone working at Samlesbury at the time might have snapped some, or maybe a plane spotter.
Cheers in advance, you never know!
Bumping this thread to see if anyone has any material in their collection regarding the Ethiopian Canberra. I’m still trying to complete my book on the topic, and it would be interesting to see if anyone out there worked on their refurb at Samlesbury.
Does anyone know the fate of the two Canberras that were supposedly part of this purchase? I am trying to get in touch with John Sayers, as I have been told he was involved with the overall bulk purchase of the aircraft listed above.
Good idea, Baz. If it’s not J Campbell, it looks damn like him! My only hope now is that they may still be around, but they’d be getting on a bit if so.