Great thread here, just stumbled across it while searching for anything on 84 Sqn middle east memories. My Grandad, Corporal Ronald Beeny, served with 84 Sqn from about ’49-51 I believe before coming off Sqns, and I was wondering if anyone on here either served or has a family member who served at the same time? Grandad was an electrician I believe and I have several photos of him working on Brigands and Harvards at Habbaniya.
I’d love to see any photos or memories from that time.
The front cover painting on Air-Britain’s history of 84sqn “Scorpions Sting” depicts a Wapiti bearing the fylfot symbol on the fin and beneath the wings.
http://www.mossie.org/images/book_covers/scorpions_sting.jpg
I have this book, as my Grandad served briefly on 84 Sqn in the late 40s and I wanted to do some research on them. There are numerous photos showing DH9as and Wapitis with Swastikas marked on fuselage and underwing, as pre-Nazi era, this was a symbol of good luck I believe, but I am sure Wikipedia has a detailed briefing on it.
Great pics on here, thanks for sharing. There must be lots of superb photos like these in long-forgotten family albums all over the UK. I’ve always said someone should make a good coffee table book out of them – ‘Memoirs of the early RAF’ or something similar.
Thanks a lot, chaps. In the meantime, I’ve been painting, and have knocked out a few more examples. I also have the static model complete for scenery-builders, and will be releasing that this weekend. The shabby looking partly-bare metal scheme you see below is for WM994, the first of the static model repaints I’ve done.
WM994:


WF174:

IN157:

XE444:
Nice project you have going there. I have the T.4 pilot’s notes, but sadly these are in storage at the moment and I don’t think I can get to them easily. That said, I think I may be able to track a low-res (but viewable) PDF down for you in a bit. Stay tuned and again, great work – I am a huge Canberra fan.
**OK, so far all I can find are the B.2 pilot’s notes:
http://www.tailwheel.nl/e/englishelectriccanberra/index.html
but you should be able to find some better pics online for the T.4. There is a thread here where a chap mentions he has the actual notes – maybe you can get in touch with him:
http://www.internationalcockpitclub.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=344
Steve
I have several b/w Lightning photos from a collection given to me by a former Canberra navigator. These were ‘raided’ from various squadron archives over the years but will say no more. As a result, I have no idea about the photographer, but can happily scan them if you are interested.
ATB,
Steve
Hello Johnnie,
it couldn’t have been that bad, as 510 was transferred to the Navy in 1971 to become a T.22. UK Serials lists the complete data on it as follows:
d/d 12/01/1955, transferred to Royal Navy 15/02/1971, sold as scrap at St. Athan 12/1992, remains scrapped by Hanningfield Metals, Stock, Essex during 07/1993
If I find anything more on the crash I’ll let you know.
I’ll see if I can find anything as well. The best I can turn up at the mo is a small shot of the back seat for you. Will keep looking. There are some other murky shots but these won’t be much help.
http://www.internationalcockpitclub.org.uk/gallery/wt525.htm
Oh, wait, Les B. already documents 525 on his site with much clearer photos. Back to the drawing board.
Well, I’m planning a trip back to the UK in April, so maybe I can get up there and spend a day helping out. I don’t have any technical skills to speak of in terms of wiring etc, but can give her a polish!:) It’s just be nice to be involved on a Canberra project. Keep up the good work anyway.
Steve
Timbo,
as an avid and slightly obsessed Canberra fan myself, there can NEVER be enough Cranberry postings and plugs! Cracking work on 333, you lucky so and so. If I were back in the UK I would certainly like to get stuck in in any way possible. I think I repainted her for FS2004 a year or two ago so have a soft spot for it. **UPDATE, alas, it was XH568, but close enough (also, this is not a ‘true’ B.6 (mod) since we only had a Swedish Tp.52 to use)
Ray W. – you may be onto something with the SAAF, hopefully they did keep something mothballed. The only other operators I know of are HAMM over in northern California, with their two raspberry ripple birds, but I doubt they are willing to give up their Avons anytime soon.
Still trying to find a suitable replacement engine until we get one the Canberra remains firmly on the ground.
My guess would be the only possibly serviceable engines would be with the Indian Air Force, but I have no idea if they have kept up maintenance on retired Canberras or just scrapped them. Kind of a long haul to get one from them anyway…
Good question about WJ874…It’d be lovely to see her up again.
Thanks for the update Brian, i personally have got three different articles that say it was VZ783 that had the underwater ejection (possibly all quoted from the same source), but either way i’m sure one of us is correct. Nice to know there are others out there who have an interest in the ‘dragon’.;)
cheers,
Rob.
What a cracking thread, I just came across it. I am very jealous of course of those that got to see the real, sorry I mean Royal Navy at it’s finest! Regarding the Wyvern, Rob you are not alone. Some friends of mine over in the virtual aviation world recently released a lovely Wyvern model for FSX. If you haven’t already downloaded it (assuming you are a simmer), you should treat yourself.
http:/www.nazcastudios.com/wyvern.html
Nice canopy in your avatar pic – where did you come across it?
I myself am a huge Sea Hawk fan, so to hear these stories of mass take-offs and gun-firing demos is quite something. I have some lovely colour footage from Farnborough ’57 with the Red Devils (or Red Hawks) display team that might come close to to this, but to have seen the real thing…ah, if only.
Thanks for sharing the memories, all.
Steve
Got it, thanks for that chaps.
That ‘sky’ does look practically white in that shot. So, what is the consensus on the sky/white issue – was the usage of EDSG/white in the early pattern markings just painted on occasions or did some Sea Hawks actually serve in this arrangement?
That Whitley tailsection really needs to be restored and incorporated into a rebuild:cool:
Cheers
Cees
That would be a heck of a lot of work…it looked very structurally unsound to me when I looked at it. It is a lovely find though, tucked in their upstairs.
Seriously, I have to echo the comments on here, the MAM staff are SUPERB. Malcolm Lambert, their previous Chief Engineer was always extremely helpful, taking pics and answering questions I had on their aircraft for any projects I had. Being a lifelong Canberra addict, I think my crowning moment came the day he let me in their PR.3, WF922 and powered her up. Priceless moment. A brilliant museum.
Great pics, right down the Meteor shot; I love the MAM and after a few visits you’re hooked. The last time I was in there, the Meteor paintwork was a little different though, although the camo is nice too. Anyone know what the old scheme represented?
