Hey TR1 , this is exactly what I am saying !

Limited to “thin” inner wing pylon load (1000l fuel tanks , 2000l for Rafale) .
Then , this Typhoon can ‘t drop anything because it hasn ‘t got the required laser pod (!) .

We could also talk about the robustness of the wings and overall airframe to withstands real heavy load under Gs . Check how much weigth each pylon can take and compare with the Rafale (example) .
At 5Gs , the Rafale can withstands 10 tons more (!) than the Typhoon .
Check the numbers 😉

Cheers .

EE :

Even in it’s current form 2x ASRAAM, 4x AMRAAM, 4x Paveway II, 1x LDP, 2x external drop tanks is quite an impressive load to admire. Theres not too many aircraft that can carry such a wide range wrt numbers is concerned.

What I admire is the fact that whatever the AtoG is , it keeps its teeth in AtoA with 6 Missiles . From medium to high altitude , the Typhoon with such a load is still an outstanding opponent in the BVR regime .
Its 4 Amraam belly harpoints show its Interceptor design .
Now , I wouldn ‘t say that I “admire” such load .

The thing is : what the customer wants ?
The Typhoon is an Interceptor with a good multirole capability . In France , we see it as a M2000 on steroids and I bet that India also sees it as such .
It is not a true multirole fighter (or omnirole) because of its very specific design . I mean that no one would build a true multirole fighter with such landing gear system , using the main wing when heavy external stores should be there :

Then , the heavy (wet) hardpoints should not be limited to 1,500kg but be cleared for 2,000kg+ . Also , its 7,500kg max payload clearly show that it wasn ‘t design to bring havoc on far away enemy ground forces (Rafale = 9,500kg , 2 tons more . 2,000l fuel tanks , etc …) .
The Typhoon ‘s range on an AtoG mission “Hi-Lo-Hi” is slightly smaller than the M2000 ‘s range for the same mission .

Typhoon was designed for THAT:

There , it shines .
Its aerodynamics also show an Interceptor design , like the M2000 with a similar load :

I am not comparing the Typhoon to a M2000-5 , I only show that both designs are based on the same idea : fly high and fast and kill everything .

I hate to repeat myself but the Typhoon wasn ‘t built to be a true multirole fighter . France managed to turn the M2000 into a decent and very capable strike-fighter but it has the same shortcomings than the Typhoon . Again , not comparing , just talking about overall design .

Cheers .

EE :

Doesn’t seem to stop some French members from boasting that their air force & navy achieved more over Libya than the Brits, on here and on other forums.

And rightly , numbers talk for themselves .
The fact is we shouldn ‘t bash each other as we both did a great job . Yes , the French took the lead and kept it all the way (and that can ‘t be denied) but it was a NATO Ops . Everybody did its bit .
To be honest , from day 1 minus 30 (a month before the Ops begin) I knew that Sarkozy was going to “send the Forces” and take the lead .

Libya shown that the Tornado is still UK ‘s main striker and it does the job very well still , while the Typhoon demonstrated some multirole capabilities .
All good .

Cheers .

TR1 :

It sure does.

I stand corrected . Excellent rear view 🙂

Boom :

Blue, how many times did the pilot turn his head to look 180 degree behind him ? human beings can’t even see exactly backwards unless in peripheral vision. not unless you twist your body as well.

Well , we are not going to argue on few degrees here and there , are we ? He does twist his upper body on some occasions , mind .
Anyway , I am sure that you understood what I meant Sir .

I won’t wait long for designers to switch to cameras to cater for SA in that aspect.

It ‘s called EODAS and it ‘s on the F-35 .
http://www.es.northropgrumman.com/solutions/f35targeting/assets/eodasvideo.html

Cheers .

Excellent response J-20 Hotdog , precise and factual 🙂

Cheers .

jdsgn :

you guys are soo pessimistic its not even funny.

He is right . The whole program is way ahead of itself , even cheaper than planned , everything is working better than intended and the 3 versions are ready to attack China .
All the rest is propaganda … :rolleyes:

Cheers .

Obligatory :

Storm Shadow & SCALP EG is the same missile, just different name in english/french

Oh really ??? We didn ‘t know 😀

Cheers .

Wrightwing :

Allow me to rephrase- there’s no way you’d get a cheaper aircraft with the same capabilities, or anywhere near the same IOC.

lol ! 😀 Wrightwing , go to bed . A good night sleep can do marvels to a lost man . 😉
Give the same budget to Dassault and they ‘ ll end up with an X-Wing …

Cheers .