As far as I know, the Thielert (or whatever they call themselves this week) diesel can be retrofitted to a C172, so I wouldn’t exclude that possibility. I think Cessna was even toying with idea of offering this engine as a factory option not too long ago?
@Jacob: I’ve taken the liberty of posting your query in a very large German aviation forum. You can find the thread here: http://www.flugzeugforum.de/threads/78894-Stinson-L-5-D-ELKO?p=2062847#post2062847 .
Held og lykke med projektet, det ville være godt med endnu en Stinson i Danmark.
Used as an instructional airframe only in Denmark, restored and painted as 41-401 in 1953, spent time in storage and at Egeskov Veteranmuseum before ending up at Danmarks Flymuseum in 1998 where it is today. Never wore Danish markings prior to restoration, was presumably chosen for preservation because it was in a much better condition than any of other remaining Spitfires in Denmark (source: milfly.dk).
Googling “Stinson D-ELKO” comes up with a 10 year old issue of KZ&V’s magazine, in which a regular poster in this forum claims to have heard that its remains are in Denmark and would its wing struts be for sale.
Note that the German civil register available to the public, due to data protection laws. The lists that exist are spotters’ compilations.
I thought by the way that were relatively many in Italy, having survived post WW2 as glider tugs?
Edit: “Delivered” 08-1968:http://www.airframes.org/reg/delko
Call it something else, and you’d probably need to involve them right from the beginning. I suspect that allocation of registration letters will be the very least of your worries though…
It was engined by an ASh 82 radial. Only info I do have is an old one, that the choice of the engine will be a surprise. That´s all I know, sorry.
Michael
Rotax 912?
The Danish Hunters were bought and paid for by the Danish government. All survivors except one were sold back to Hawker-Siddeley in the mid-70ies, who found that there was not really any market for passing them on in refurbished condition. Hence, they mostly ended up with museums in the UK, and with private owners.
I’m sure that the idle thrust of a Merlin is quite signficant at the propeller. I’m however referring the airflow some 7-8m behind the propeller in that situation. But what you are then saying is that e.g a Buchon or a Spitfire becomes uncontrollable in the flare with the engine off? And that you could lift its tail on the ground with forward stick and an idling engine?
As regards flaring, if you start the flare with too high an airspeed, the aircraft could start climbing (depending on the amount of excess speed and how aggressively it is done). If the speed is too low, the aircraft could stall immediately and drop like a stone. So yes, there is such a thing as a proper speed at which to start flaring.
I may only be flying Cessnas and Tecnams, but that’s the way it works with them. What do you fly?
That would be my interpretation as well.
For want of an angle of attack indicator, any aircraft is perfectly flyable without power as long as proper airspeed is maintained (e.g best glide). Propeller airflow over control surfaces is not required, certainly not when touching down (where any airflow from the idling propeller would have negligable effect).
How does this then in your opinion add up with most single engine propeller aircraft touching down with the throttle at idle, including many WW2 fighter aircraft?
Because there is no airflow over the rudder / elevator from the propeller when the engine is stopped thus reducing the control authority and making the stick feel “dead”. Not a problem if you have enough airspeed but when you slow down to land…..
So are you trying to say that you need airflow from the propeller over the rudder and elevator in order to be able to land an aircraft without problems?
yes I have the intention to use the most noise sensitive airfield in all of Germany and yes the first politician has already complained. (many more confirmations to come)
Well, I gather the airfield operators got rid of the binoculars with a built-in laser measuring device, which they used to monitor that pilots stick exactly to the published circuit (and to punish accordingly those who didn’t), so maybe it’s not so gloomy after all anymore…
Very brave initiative, I wish you all the best and look forward to seeing – and hearing – your beautiful collection here!
(“Alte Kriegsflugzeuge kreisen in niedriger Höhe über Schulen und Kindergärten. Eltern haben angst um ihre Kinder” 🙂 )
PS! In case Hangelar doesn’t work out, how about Oberschleissheim (EDNX)… ?
I seem to recall a series of pictures in ancient magazine (Aircraft Illustrated or Aeroplane?) of the Vimy, parked in the open, starting to burn, literally out of the blue and beginning with the wings?
Certainly sounds great, and a great surprise too. Even though I live in Germany and follow the vintage aircraft scene closely, I’ve never heard of such airworthy WW1 aircraft or a P-40 in this country, nor of the collector, nor of anyone wanting to use the probably most noise-sensitive GA airfield in Germany as a base for aircraft of this type.
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