1) Highly unlikely that the Bundewehr will dispose of an F4F to a private buyer in anything else than demilitarized condition.
2) I think I read somewhere that this was also a part of the original purchase contract with the US, and that any other type of disposal is subject to their approval
3) Who would want to throw money and effort at an aircraft with only 500 hrs life remaining?
4) If any governmental organization outside Germany, e.g. in the UK, would have been successful in acquiring an airworthy F4F, I should have thought that transfer of the aircraft would have taken place while the entire German F4F programme was still up and running instead of retrieving a phased-out aircraft which hasn’t flown for more than 1/2 years.
Maybe for Bruntingthorpe (if an F4F can taxi with sawed-through spars…) but highly unlikely for flight anywhere…
aeromarkt.net
planecheck.com
controller.com
(cover all sorts of GA types, but historics are also there if you look in the right places)
Joseph Koch’s Fliegendes Museum ? Alive and well apparently, and now in Grossenhain (but was founded in Augsburg, then migrated to the UK before it finally wound up where it is now)
http://www.fliegendes-museum.de/alte_website/Fliegendes_Museum/Flotte.html
Hangar 10 on the Baltic island of Usedom?
What if the museum at Hendon burns down, the ceiling caves in, or the earth opens up and swallows the collection?
Do you honestly think that the likelihood of this happening is comparable to what could happen during a transatlanic voyage?
The Typhoon (and the other museum aircraft) has to be kept somewhere – but it doesn’t have to travel half way around the world.
If the container falls off the ship in a storm, the ship sinks or the cargo aircraft transporting it crashes, the sole surviving Hawker Typhoon is, as such, irreplaceably lost.
Gone, lost, game over. Period.
What an incredibly needless risk to take.
Kenneth -I was under the impression that two machines were going to be kept airworthy for a little longer on test and evaluation duties?
AFAIK correct, but it was not for long as their last flights were on July 29 and 30, respectively.
The last German F-4F flight took place on July 30, 2013. Ten flying F-4F’s remained in the Luftwaffe inventory on the date of the official retirement of the type on June 29, 2013; two of those will become gate guards in Wittmund and Neuburg and the remainder were flown to Jever in July for scrapping. So it looks doubtful that any will be heading for preservation in the UK, and if so, it won’t be flying in on its own power.
The “unknown location” is one of the many storage sites through which many Danish “preserved” aircraft have passed since the late Sixties, very likely Billund in the late Eighties or early Nineties, with the yellow component to the left being a part of Klemm Kl 35 SE-AKN luckily now back in Sweden and flying there.
I’m extremely relieved to see this aircraft having gone to a good home with a viable future. I saw in the early Eighties and there’s a lot of work ahead…
So technicaly these finds, are the German,s own fault.
Would you like to explain this to the family of the young Caterpillar driver who was killed in Germany a few years ago when he dug into an unknown, unexploded bomb at a road works site?
Or to the bomb disposal squads who put their lives at stake every time one of these devices is found (and sometimes on top receive a lot of public criticism, as in the case of the recent Munich bomb)?
This is a very real and very dangerous problem for very real people, many, many of whom were not even born in WW2. Which incidentally ended some 68 years ago, so maybe it’s time to look forward now?
[QUOTE=tenthije;2079341This particular plane had an take-off accident in 2000 when it stalled at 100ft and fell flat on the ground.[/QUOTE]
It may very well have had a previous accident but not quite like this. There won’t be anything rebuildable left after 100 ft plummet.
How bl**dy pathetic.
Any particular reason for this sadly dwindled number? Are Venoms difficult to fly, overly costly to maintain, difficult to find spare parts for, difficult to keep in flying condition (wooden “pod”?)??
…grey painted metal panels…
Sorry for being an anorac, but were/are they not anodized rather than painted?
Seems that San Marino is a bit of haven for aircraft which for whatever reason are difficult to register elsewhere.
Perhaps San Marino is an EASA member which would then theoretically permit operation of a T7-registered aircraft in any other EASA member state?
Some Yak-52 seem to have taken up this registration when the RA-registrations were declared invalid. I’ve also seen a couple of L-39 and a microlight in Germany with T7-regs as well
Fantastic!