KennethHow about Dove OY-BHZ: http://www.oy-reg.dk/register/988.html
KennethIt’s definitely a Falco; the fuselage “split” behind the cockpit/wing structure is a very characterising feature of this lovely aircraft.
I knew someone in Denmark who had a rare Laverda-built example of this aircraft (had a flight in it as well…), acquired all the Sequoia brochures (the company which very likely provided the kit for the depicted aircraft) and followed Stephen Wilkinson’s reports in “Pilot” on building this aircraft. A Norwegian Falco builder crossed the Atlantic in 1993 to attend Oshkosh!
If I remember correctly you actually build the thing in more or less one piece and when it’s time to move the aircraft you saw off the tailcone, thereby aiming very accurately between bulkheads provided for this very purpose.. 😮
KennethI have just talked to a pilot. They tend to be very corporativists in these cases, and always praise the skills of their companions.
In this case, however he tells he wouldn´t have even attempted it. Analyzing all the data, he thinks it´s beyond all reasonable limits, and she was pushing it too far.
He´s competely sure, that she will be “told” something, and even he doesn´t rule out, that she might be fired off.
Let me see if I understand you correctly:
You’re a non-pilot in a different country asking a pilot from another airline, who wasn’t there, had no direct involvementwith the incident, “analyses” what happened on the basis of media reports and publically available ATIS, METAR’s and TAF’s but without a transcript of radio communications, the CVR and the FDR or an interview with crew? And to top off all of this consequences for the PFL’s career are also determined as a “free” bonus?
Correct?
Great, thank you so much. Please forward your results to the German AAIB (here’s their URL: http://www.bfu-web.de) as they can obviously stop their investigations now, and continue with other work at hand.
As a pilot and fairly frequent flyer, allow me to thank you once again for your valuable contribution to aviation safety. I can stop fearing now that a Lufthansa A321 will crash into my son’s kindergarten. The world definitely needs more people like you.
KennethThe RE-8 = Harry Tate, bit of poetic licence with rhyming slang
Very obvious indeed, why didn’t I think of that in 30+ years that I have been wondering about this… :rolleyes:
KennethMondariz, judging from your other posts you seem to be based in Denmark. How about perusing your own backyard first; you could probably come up with much more interesting (because they are widely unknown) thing than “going” to exotic places with Google Earth.
How about the essentially complete F-84G which is stored at Egeskov Castle? Is it still there and in what condition?
What is hiding in the many hangars in Stauning (see e.g. oy-reg.dk)?
HOLY CHRIST!
Thanks JDK.
For anyone unfamiliar with that collection, have a peek here:
http://warbirdinformationexchange.or…connie+edwards
7th March 2008 15:03
Hvilken planet kommer du fra – set med flyvehistoriske øjne.. 😮 :confused: 😀
KennethThe RE-8 nicknamed Harry Tate for obvious reasons.
And which ones are they? I’ve always been wondering about that nickname.
Some from Germany:
Focke-Wulff/Piaggio P.149: “Piggi”
F-4F Phantom: “Luftwaffen-Diesel” (due to the noticeable smoke trails)
Tornado: “Klappdrache” (foldable dragon/kite)
Bell UH-1: “Teppichklopfer” (carpet beater)
Eurofighter: €-Fighter, Teurofighter (“Teuro” from “teuer”=expensive)
Aircraft flying back (self)injured skiers from the German-speaking part of the Alps are usually known as “Gips-Bomber” (plaster-bomber), regardless of type..
KennethBut to bury one’s head in the sand … is … dangerous.
Certainly is, you can also get a red neck from it.
KennethHave any of the negatively disposed and esteemed US contributors to this thread actually paused to think about what “trade” means, and how much US military hardware is populating European airspace? Did you know that European aerospace companies have already forked out 1 billion US Dollars in development participation costs for something called Joint Strike Fighter?
Did you answer “no” to most of the questions above?
Well, you’re not alone. This lady would fit in nicely in this thread with the knowledge level currently displayed by your ilk:
KennethThe flying displays on the public days are much more elaborate than on the trade days. Moreover, many interesting participants in the static display don’t arrive until late Thursday or early Friday.
Friday is the best day; crowded but not so much as on Saturdays/Sundays. Be there early in any case!
A provisional list is due on the official homepage within the next few weeks. Patrouille Suisse will be there, but be aware that their display is somewhat toned down in comparison to what you will see them do elsewhere.
Flying displays may not be soo fluent as usual due to construction works and the need to fit the scheduled airliners in as well.
KennethI’ve “only” had five cars so far, three of which I still own:
1) 1977 Renault 12TL, which I acquired in 1985. Most ecologically correct car owned so far, as it was water soluble and had self-disintegrated by 1989. Only the boot lid and many blobs of Plastic Padding were left.
2) 1990 VW Golf II 1.8L (bought new). Absolutely brilliant value for money and extremely reliable. Toured most of Europe in it and didn’t sell it until 2005!
3) 1996 Caterham Super Seven 1.6L Rover K-Series (bought new). Still have and will never part with it…
4) 2003 Volvo S80 D5 (bought new). Still have it; excellent Autobahn eater and so much more value for money than a BMW or Mercedes. Gorgeous, torquey and powerful turbodiesel engine. Blazes effortlessly up the Autobahn from Innsbruck to the Brenner Pass without ever getting bullied out of the left lane (this is Europe..) by any other cars.
5) 2005 Renault Grand Scénic 1.6L. Our present kiddies’ car. Somewhat weak engine but will seat seven people and is full of great design details.
KennethI’ve “only” had five cars so far, three of which I still own:
1) 1977 Renault 12TL, which I acquired in 1985. Most ecologically correct car owned so far, as it was water soluble and had self-disintegrated by 1989. Only the boot lid and many blobs of Plastic Padding were left.
2) 1990 VW Golf II 1.8L (bought new). Absolutely brilliant value for money and extremely reliable. Toured most of Europe in it and didn’t sell it until 2005!
3) 1996 Caterham Super Seven 1.6L Rover K-Series (bought new). Still have and will never part with it…
4) 2003 Volvo S80 D5 (bought new). Still have it; excellent Autobahn eater and so much more value for money than a BMW or Mercedes. Gorgeous, torquey and powerful turbodiesel engine. Blazes effortlessly up the Autobahn from Innsbruck to the Brenner Pass without ever getting bullied out of the left lane (this is Europe..) by any other cars.
5) 2005 Renault Grand Scénic 1.6L. Our present kiddies’ car. Somewhat weak engine but will seat seven people and is full of great design details.
KennethSome random thoughts on this subject:
1) How many of the moaners who post negatively on this subject have actually bought a ticket for a ride on the aircraft concerned (and how often), thereby lending active support for the operations concerned?
2) Why are aircraft owners in Europe always just sitting around and waiting for things to happen, instead of actively influencing the process before things are finalized (all the draft JARs were published before being decided on).
3) Why are aircraft owners in Europe incapable of organizing themselves in order to put up a concerted resistance towards such things? There must be close to a dozen, if not more, operators in Europe affected by this. What is the Dutch Dakota Association, for example, doing? European efforts (if you can call it that…) positively pale against what the EAA and AOPA USA achieves.
4) If everything is looking so gloomy why has Lufthansa’s Historic Flight just bought three Constellations with the object of getting one in the air in two years time?
5) As regards the question as to who appointed the responsible “EU Quangos”:
We did.
Either by voting for the wrong people or not participating in the EU Parliament elections. Did you cast your vote for the latest elections?
KennethThe aircraft are owned, or maintained/restored for different owners, by the Meier Brothers. According to flugzeugforum.de they are going to move to Bremgarten soon and so will the aircraft, so you need to go to Freiburg soon if you want to see anything, Newforest (and no I didn’t see the ISS due to night fog over Munich but thanks for the tip anyway!)
KennethOY is Denmark and the aircraft in question was a CitationJet, OY-JET, and was “flown” by its owner. Do a search of the NTSB database with the registration and you get most of the interesting particulars. His brief swim in the Atlantic didn´t put the owner off flying and he soon purchased a replacement. A Citation Sovereign, which he has registered (and this is not a joke:) OY-WET…. :p
KennethThere was actually a museum comprising a collection of airworthy vintage aircraft at Augsburg Airport until 10-15 years, but it closed and the collection ultimately ended up in Großenhain. There is nothing of historical interest there any more. An airshow will be held there some time in July.
Oberschleissheim was neither a Luftwaffe testing ground nor is a Ju 52 being restored there. It is however one of the oldest active airfields in Europe (founded 1912) and together with the museum is indeed very well worth a visit. A CASA 2.111 is the type which is under restoration. You may want to time your visit to coincide with the annual vintage aircraft fly-in (12-13.07.08, but so far unconfirmed) or one of the weekends when Ju-Air gives joyrides from there with their Ju 52/3m (see http://www.dachsel.com for dates).
Don’t forget the main branch of the Deutsches Museum in central Munich and its aeronautical department!
Not in Bavaria, but fairly close is Red Bull’s “Hangar 7” at Salzburg Airport, where their aircraft are on display if not in use. About 2 hrs drive from Munich.
The Willy-Messerschmitt-Museum in Ingolstadt/Manching (1 hour drive north of Munich) is the home of the aircraft of the Messerschmitt Foundation and is indeed not accessible to the public. They do however sometimes accommodate groups, and I’d suggest that you write them and inform them of your intentions. Maybe they can fit you into a group visit – that’s what happened to me when I wrote them!
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