Only the owners and the LBA know what the G-12 is registered as. The data-protection paranoid Germans have ensured that the German register is not accessible to the public..
My personal opinion, but from a fairly reasonable position to have that opinion, is that the G-12 is closer to the FAA experimental category than to a Permit to Fly. I don’t think you’d ever see the G-12 on a U.K. reg, or not at least without a lot of money being spent with a design authority and much correspondence with a patient CAA surveyor.
Where it is technically doesn’t really matter, I’m afraid, it’s the paperwork that counts. It’s registered in Germany, so it seems the owners are going for a German vVZ (PtF). I see no reason why it shouldn’t be able to be registered in the UK; this is after all the country in which PPL’s can (or rather could) fly Hunters and a civilian organization could operate an Avro Vulcan. It all bottoms down to how and at which stage the authorities are involved, I think. The German LBA generally has a very poor reputation in German general aviation circles, yet they enabled FlugWerk to carry on with their project because (and I remember FlugWerk mentioning this) they were involved and informed about the project in a very complete form right from the beginning.
Is that comparable to a Permit to Fly, such as the UK has?
As far as I know, yes. Whereby, having thought about it, I seem to recall that the G-12 didn’t even have that, only a permission for test flights. The thing about PtF and other, national and limited registrations (except EASA Annex II within Europe) is that they are not ICAO-conforming. So any aircraft with such a registration actually has to have a permission to enter the airspace of another country in Europe in one form or the other (I think Germany has issued a blanket approval for all European aircraft with a PtF to fly in Germany). This is why the CAA has been able (probably on reasonable grounds too) to refuse some Europan exotics flying in the UK. May all sound very boring and very academic, however that’s what’s governs aircraft operations in Europa in these days. If I for example would want to fly from Germany to Denmark in German microlight (which falls under national German legislation and is not ICAO-conforming), I need to apply for a Danish permission one month in advance and there’s a limit as to how long I can stay in Denmark….
The Basler BT-67 is in legal form a DC-3 modified according to Basler’s supplementary type certificate (STC). A certification as a “Basler BT-67” would have been a completely new type approval from scratch, which that aircraft at that time would very likely not have passed (or it would at least have been prohibitively expensive). The Merlin/DB-swap G-12 is flying with a German limited/test approval (“vorläufige Verkehrszulassung”), as far as I know, so it remains to be seen how that will end up. “Historics” only exist as a certification category in France, certainly not in Germany.
As a comparable example, Jaguar is building a batch of brand-new Jaguar D-Types. They will however be confined to track use, as they are cars built in 2018 which will never pass 2018 car type approval requirements (emissions, crash tests, seat belts, lighting and many, many other things).
Question for those in the know; Is it legal to take a Buchon and re-register it as a 109? It is effectively a VIN swap, something that is illegal over here in the car world. Or does it remain a Buchon on paper? I assume it can’t be as it no longer confirms to the Buchon type certificate? How do these things work with warbirds?
Well, first of all, there is no confirmation of if, exactly how much, and how, any Buchon has been “incorporated” in this “new” Bf109. In any case, the German authorities (the Luftfahrtbundesamt) don’t seem to have too much of an issue with these kinds of “restorations”, cf. the BF 109 G-10 D-FDME and the C-47 being rebuilt in Germany with the identity of a recently written-off German example but being for all intents and purposes a former G-registered C-47. Moreover, there is no such thing as “type certificate” for a Buchon, the type never had civilian type approval and has presumably always been operated in civilian hands as an experimental, permit-to-fly or EASA Annex II aircraft.
VIN swap may be illegal in the (vintage) car world, but as they say in German: “Wo kein Kläger, kein Richter” (essentially “no plaintiff, no judge”). As a Caterham Seven owner, I’ve lost count of the Lotus Sevens I’ve seen which are essentially Caterhams but which claim a date of manufacture somewhere in the Sixties. The same goes for many Cobras, Shelby Mustangs or “road-legal” Bugattis being essentially Argentinian Pur Sang replicas with a few original Bugatti parts.
Having said that, and if that is what really happened, butchering yet again a Buchon to forcefully “create” another “Bf 109” makes me cringe. Oh, for an airworthy Buchon in silver and light blue paint with Spanish markings…
How about a more realistic goal, i.e. restoration and a one-off flight to Duxford, Bruntingthorpe, Speyer or whatever for preservation?
Sorry, but in our over-regulated world with air cargo capabilities available en masse from various East European operators, the viability (particularly in preservation terms) of a single survivor of a rare type operating on a charity basis in Africa doesn’t seem convincing to me….
It looks as though OY-DSZ has made it across the North Sea.
Feel fairly sure it was at Stauning when I was there last August.
Could have been OY-DSH, same type in the same scheme, although with the serial LB381 as opposed to LB314 for OY-DSZ. OY-DSH belongs to the Danish Vintage Aircraft Museum (although the entry on their website confusingly shows a picture of OY-DSZ) and is still airworthy, I think.
Can probably be found in an early IKEA catalogue.
I only now read the RAFM’s health and safety requirements for aircraft recovery in Robin Perrie’s earlier post. How bl**dy pathetic and out of tune with the real world. Survey the airframe for sharp objects, my goodness.
Nice cars in the background, what are they?
And we might have to be careful about pointing fingers, I’m sure that there are some very strict conservationists out there who could make similar charges against the owners of data-plate rebuilds. I’m sure a lot of WWII paint and metal has been lost so enthusiasts can see more Spitfires and Mustangs at Duxford.
No.
There are no mitigating circumstances.
It was a complete time-capsule. It was 2012, not 1972.
Sheer and utter vandalism, committed by ignorants.
An absolutely incomparable display of ignorance, incompetence, idiocy and lack of intelligence.
Are there any of the Iraqi Furies recovered in the Seventies still around which have not yet been restored?
They’ve had F-35 ground training aids for the Royal Navy on their homepage for quite a while now…
Since when does a windscreen and an instrument panel qualify as a “cockpit”?