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    This thread is getting so boring. The topics is about aviation industry but now it has turned into flame war about economy, democracy and governments. People should stop comparing these two countries, it’s getting old.

    in reply to: China receives first batch of Su-30MK2s #2654179
    SSPzGr
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    su-27sk been assemble in xinjiang? i thought it’s shenyang.

    in reply to: Su-30MK2 #2661786
    SSPzGr
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    Western media? Vympel thinks I’m a Chinese nationalist

    that you are, you are an ultra nationalist that has been brain washed by western propaganda.

    They are most defintely not world leading and are effective only when used in larger numbers against other third world nations using the same crappy weaponry.

    sorry dude, that’s like saying “the chinese use human wave to win battles”.

    If you read Chinese journals, you would see Chinese pushing towards Western standards in everything.

    not western standards, we are heading in our own independent way trying to incorporating both the best of east and west, you should know that.

    Not bashing Russian equipment just because China has them is simply nationalistic bullsh1t. China is buying crap that will die as easily against Western equipment as the ones that the Arabs used.

    i can’t believe you are making stupid statement like this one. remember, we didn’t buy everything the russians have to offer. they maybe not the best, but they are certainly not crappy as you say they are. heck, i can even bet fc-1 is no where close to mig-29 in terms of performance. so what’s your point of bragging some crap airplane. you are contradicting yourself.

    in reply to: Su-30MK2 #2662290
    SSPzGr
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    give me a break, goldendragon, to put it in the chinese way, you have been brainwashed by western media. certainly, there are weak points and defects in russian weaponry, but most of them are effective, if not world leading.

    if you read any chinese military magazines at all, chinese military analysts all agree, russian equipments, although sometimes not as precise and advanced as their western counterparts, are still effective and have uniques that others can’t match.

    so who are you to criticize equipments that we can’t produce. why don’t you criticize our own defense industry instead? instead of provide with advanced weaponry, it forces us to pay billions to purchase some “junk weapons that are outdated and no good”. unless one day that the russians need to import our weapon, then you can start bashing russian equipments.

    in reply to: Su-30MK2 #2662601
    SSPzGr
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    come on, no one can claim j-10 is a success when most of its performance stats are still unproven. and china is not ahead of russia in designing aircraft nor missile. china may have better manufacturing machines and more funding to put into R&D and procurement, but the fact is, gaps remain. so PRC4eva, give it a rest, saying russian equipments sucks while china has been importing billions of russian weaponry is bit contradicting don’t you think?

    in reply to: Question about J-10 pics #2663200
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    digdream:

    no way, i am not going to pay that much for a magazine, i can just buy it cheap here in china. 😀

    there are so many military related publications nowaday that it’s waste of time to go thru them. so i generally only keep up with ordnance knowledge and that’s it.

    arthur:

    which j-7 article are you talking about, i can try to translate it, i am not very professional though.

    deino:

    yeah, that pic does look like it has been manipulated.

    in reply to: Question about J-10 pics #2663569
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    digdream:

    really, i wonder where i can get that magazine, off some newstand? i was under the impression that you can find more info from releases that circulate only within the military. otherwise, papers like Kong Jun Bao sometimes have hard to notice leaks here and there, you just have to piece them together. anyway, here’s a pic from xinhui in CDF.

    in reply to: Question about J-10 pics #2663764
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    haleyoneshoemak£º

    sorry to say, both of your magazine pics are fakes. the first one is definitely not an official publishing, the second one is a crappy buffone someone PSed.

    crobato:

    you been to china? yeah, what u said is true, although pollutions in major cities have been constantly improving, it’s still unbearable. the inner cities are the worst, beijing is also constantly covered with dust blowing from gobi desert.

    in reply to: J-10 Comming Soon, 4 squadrons by 2k5 #2672835
    SSPzGr
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    why huitong is more credible:

    1. his website has been around longer.

    2. his website has more consistent updates.

    3. he’s well known in DS (the famous chinese military forum where most of leak pictures and “speculations” come from). he’s well known in CDF as well.

    4. really, sinodefence is nowhere close to huitong’s page as far as information concerns. if you want development history of a particular project, try gatling’s airforceworld (it’s in chinese unfortunately).

    in reply to: ¡iPIC¡jNew Chinese J10B(twin seats) #2678422
    SSPzGr
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    ok, gents, let me remind you again:

    1. this thread is about J10B making its first flight, not about some guy PSed lavi cutaway into J10. and most of all, not about jews are racists and murders while palentinians are terrorists.

    2. so the guy did PSed the Lavi cutaway, well, take it as a grain of salt then. who cares about artist impression anyways? haven’t we seen enough PSed pics of J10 in the last couple years??

    3. Erez, you got to rest your case on J10 is based on Lavi, so what if it is? it can only blow up your ego or prove your point of “chinese can’t make anything their own”(i remember the japanese started out like that as well). if it makes you feel better and jews really like Lavi, buy the J10 from PRC and put whatever they want in that plane!!! or better yet, get the production license from PRC and name it to “Lavi II” or something. i just really like Deng Xiaoping’s saying, “it doesn’t matter whether the cat is white or black, if it catches mice, it’s a good cat.” let’s be practical here, look at J10’s capabilities, that’s what it matters most!!

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