Yes G-AWOG no worries writing it, it existed (PA-30) which caused offence ahead of a visit to foreign climes but it was sold in Japan. PA-28R G-AYPW…(Young Prince William) was his new mount and it was that aircraft that crashed
Having stood by the a/c through the night I am sure it was WOG. If not I do not know why I would remember it!! I certainly remember the senior PC on our shift returning from the PM at snap time with the contents of both stomachs which were in Tupperware tubs which he took great delight in placing on the table by my cheese sandwiches!! It was his duty to take them to Birmingham FSO later that morning.
ps it was lemon and white!! The a/c ts!!!hat i
Derwent dam 11.00 Merlin north. 20mins later Lynx south both 100footish. Whats the usual method of separation here and is it usually so busy????
I’ve heard a rumor that this Phantom (38+48) will fly to the UK sometime in September.. I’ve had friends take a look at her over in Jever and it’s apparently on but as for the potential operator… No one seems to know??
Image courtesy of the following site (Photographer – Jens Hameister):
http://www.airshow-party.de/JeverF4/IMG_3102_copy.jpg
Do you think 37+89 might be a spares source? Do you think they may operate from a base that has lots of red a/c???
So the glider was not on approach to land but doing a high speed low level pass at what 12ft?
An official report by the Air Accident Investigation Branch (AAIB) found the aircraft was flying too low, the court heard. So there were more factors involved in this case than at first appears?
And yes in this case I think the risk was greater than I would have thought prudent.
Mini, look at the big picture. Anyone stood right under the approach to any airfield landing ground/runway will not get decent photos of the landing a/c. Plan view yes, shock value yes. Stand to the left or right 50yds or so, you get a 3/4 on shot with the pilot,serial,camo details just fine. If the a/c encounters wind shear or loss of power you will get the money shot of the jerks being wiped out!!
Matey you stand where ever you wish, because its your human right. Anyone with half a brain will watch you en route!! I will post no more on this strand. Lifes too short.
Not to labour a point but has it ever happened that spectators have had the misfortune of an aircraft landing/crashing on there head’s on the approach path? Apart from one reply regarding a motorcyclist (who probably was just in the wrong place at the right time) I have never heard of such a thing?
Some years ago at Husbands Bosworth. I had been flying one of about six tugs which had launched a completion. There were numerous aviation photographers around the launch and recovery areas waiting for that stunning shot!!
As the various competitors arrived home one photog was stood up high may have been on his car right under the approach. The gliders were at high speed low level to cross the finish line then pull up bleed off speed nice tight circuit and land.
Our man was killed the glider which was damaged pulled up then crashed on the other side of the road. Pilot got out.
You have heard of such a thing now. That photog would have been about the same height as the goons on the fence!!!!!
One life its not a practice, its lights out for good.
In view of the many concerns stressed above and not wishing to be pre-emptive, this is my purely speculative view of how this a/c met its end.
Whilst carrying out a turn at low level for whatever reason, photos of the crews home or other interesting point of interest the a/c stalled and spun in!!
end of…….
I spent several hours guarding the remains of William of Gloucesters a/c in a hedge at Halfpenny green many years ago. I don’t think the CAA would issue his personal reg these days!!!! G-A(guess what)
How did they do the Sorpe?
We visited all of the dams that 617 visited in 43 last week! The Moehne seemed to be possible with some determination. The Eder was in a different league, with a more difficult approach, exit! However the Sorpe was something else, the approach being parallel with the dam on the water side after a dive from the hill on the approach side to fly the few hundred yards drop the bomb then climb out above the hills on the far side! My question is was this a bouncing bomb? The distance suggests not! I have not read anything anywhere on this subject, perhaps I have not looked far enough.
20/20 hindsight!! In the 90s I bought XL573 and XL613 from the ministry for £3550.00p No engines/jet pipes or aux drive gear boxes. I thought that was a good deal. Especially when I sold them on to young Pover!!
Well if the nw crew are going to visit, it would be rude not to turn up for a beer or two with 37+86. That’s if the Luftwaffe are welcome????
Alf could you call me on 07973 850470 when you can?
Regards Phil C.
With refrence to the JP passenger incident, it seems the seat had not been secured back in the a/c as the top latch was not engaged after maintainence. This caused the canopy to become cracked as the seat moved up the rail during a negative G move. They replaced the canopy as it was cracked but failed to wonder why!!!!!!! The seat was still not locked to therail so during the next session of aeros which obviously were negative on the top it departed this time through the replaced canopy together with the occupant who was lucky in view of the harness not having been secured properly and ending up round his throat. However he remembered the manual release and completed it even though his harness was all to b++++++s.
F4Fs ex Luftwaffe, nobody said Uk tooms. If it happens great if not no probs!! Wildcats reg 37+ ** or 38+** shape up, I am not confused!!!!!
Where did you hear that please ?
Maybe they are going to Scampton to give RAF Typhoon pilots some experience, ready for Iran :stupid:
Funny that in view of the Germans saying the Purchaser/aquirer of these airframes is “Hunter”???????
What happened when RAF Upper Heyford and RAF Greenham Common closed?
Well, we all know the truth here but why dont you tell us!! I am sure it will be more interesting with a bit of American spin. The last time I flew down that way the newts and bats were making a comeback at GC and UH was a giant car park!!
I’ve only ever known one seat fire on it’s own, a Spanish Mk16 seat in a Typhoon Trainer. The Main gun firing unit wasn’t cocked correctly and over time the latches moved and off went the seat. Luckily no one was near the aircraft so no injuries. The fault was traced back to a contracted assembler (Not MB). Out of all the British seats checked, 3 initially failed but were found to be fine as they were at their maximum tolerances. I was tasked with checking one of those seats, you had to lie on across the seat and look under the seat with video 2000 and take some photos at set angles. I was a little worried when I examined the photos I’d just taken, Especially when I was asked to do it again and get some clearer photos.
Would anyone know which chute failed to deploy? Drogues or main? If it was the drogue, then both the Drogue gun and BTRU have failed.
What would be the outcome if the drogue fired but the scissor shackle failed to open because the u shackle retaining bolt was torqued up too tight? Post 9!!