A few of my recent screenshots from FS9:
On the pan at Waddington.


Taking off from Waddo.

Overflying the College at Cranwell.
The best looking Spitfire is a Seafire!! The FR47. Marvellous sight and sound.
Could there possibly be a Rhodesian connection?
The lion looks very similar in design to that which was included in the Rhodesian Air Force roundel in, I think, the early 70s.
I think the aircraft immediately to the right of the Valetta nose is more likely a Varsity. The line of the top of the fuselage appears to be pretty much horizontal, rather than sloping downwards as on a Valetta.
Was there a Varsity listed in that area at that time?
Could it be this one? Details from “To Fly No More” by Colin Cummings:
11 Jan 54 WH864 Canberra B2 231 OCU One mile west of Bishop Stortford 2
After some trouble starting an engine, the aircraft took off and after acknowledging air traffic control, nothing further was heard from the crew. About 8 minutes later the aircraft dived into the ground in an inverted attitude. The cause was not determined.
Pilot Officer John Leonard HOYLE 20 Pilot
Flying Officer Michael Harry WEBBER Navigator.
I believe that some time in the 60’s four Javelins went on a tour of the far east supported by a Valiant. Think it may have included Singapore.
I am trying to find out which squadron the Javelins were, the registrations and codes of the Javelins and Valiant and exactly where they went. Also did the Valiant have standard or pale coloured roundals.
Thanks for any help in this.
Steve
Steve, there were several detachments of Javs from the UK to Singapore.
The first noted is of 6 aircraft from 23 Sqn, Exercise Dyke, during 1960. The next, by the same Sqn was in 1962, when 12 aircraft flew out from the UK to Singapore to prove the concept of rapid reinforcement. Both these flights had Valiant tanker support.
I think the 4 aircraft you might be refering to were those which were transferred from 64 Sqn to 60 Sqn in, I think, November 1963. These were the first 9Rs to join 60 and were ferried from Pakistan, were 64 had been exercising (Ex Shiksa) at the time, to Singapore. The additional aircraft were necessary to bolster 60’s aircraft strength as that squadron was then becoming heavily involved with the Indonesian armed confrontation with Malaysia.
Sorry, but I don’t have any serials of the Javs or Valiants involved.
XTM, good photos. Thanks for posting. More please!!
The Vampire is an F1 and wears 3 Sqn codes (J5). That unit operated Vampire F1s between Apr 48 to May 49 at three German airfields; Wunstorf, Gutersloh, Lubeck and then back to Gutersloh where it re-equipped with Vampire FB5s in May 49.
The Mosquito is, I think, NF 30, NT508 (if I have read the underwing serial correctly), possibly of 616 Sqn, but that is a guess as no unit markings are visible.
See here for more info on the Lancastrian:
The unamed airfield in post no. 82- Is it the old Raf airfield at Changi Singapore.
You could well be right.
Take a look at the photos and maps on this link and compare to the photo in post #82.
http://www.singas.co.uk/HTML/changi.html
Quite a resemblance. Changi was one of the few overseas posts still left in the early 70s.
Treble One Sqn did not receive its first Lightnings until April 1961. So, 1961 seems about right.
Could it be NZ4105? Rather a sad looking photo of it here:
http://www.adf-serials.com/nz-serials/gallery/Sunderland/CK_HB060968_NZ4105
There is a history of all Sunderlands to serve with the RNZAF here:
D002173A is the drawing number for this part. I will look it up in my schedule of spare parts for the vampire and let you know the exact description of the part.
Thanks, Dave. That would be much appreciated.
Hi Lauriebe
The single seat vampire airframe ID plate is located within the cockpit, usually on the inner RH side against the wooden skin. The second image shows my Vampire FB.5 instrument panels. The data plate would have been on the inner cockpit skin between the triple brake gauge and the canopy jettison handle. If you happen to find the oxygen controls that can sometimes survive a crash, as they are a fairly solid lump, the vampire data plate could be close by if it too has survived?
I have attached an image of an English Electric made dataplate for a Vampire. This shows the construction number for the aircraft and its Mod state.
As Bruce says, the sub assembly plate you found shows “FB.5” marked on it. Basically, the FB.9 is an FB.5 with additional cockpit cooling for service in the middle and far east. All airframe parts are interchangeable, so for example if an FB.9 was assembled at Fairey the relevant subassemblies would have been drawn from stock – the vast majority of which would have been FB.5 parts by that time in the early 50’s.
Hope this helps,
Dave, many thanks for that additional info.
The data plate in my original photo came from the starboard wing area around the tailboom, possibly close to, or part of, the flap assembly. This was the plate in question:
As I mentioned in an earlier post, there is nothing left of the cockpit area. The aircraft seems to have come down at a very steep angle, leaving very little substantial wreckage other than what we believe to be large parts the starboard wing.
This photo shows the biggest piece of wreckage and it is on this that the data plate was found.
This photo shows the outboard part of what is thought to be the starboard wing.
The engine and a lot of other parts are in a deep crater behind the camera. The aircraft, WG871, was manufactured by English Electric at Preston. This is confirmed by the E.E.P. markings that are still visible on the remaining pieces.
I am still researching this aircraft and its pilot, Flt Sgt Taduesz Wojciechowski and would welcome any further info that anyone might be able to provide.
Hi,
do you know the location, by a chance? Tomorrow I should be in the vicinity of the crash site. I might not be able to reach it anyway, I just wonder how far the place is as that is historically interesting site.
Thank you.
Pavel
Hi Pavel. The site of the wreckage is in a closed part of a National Park and needs special permission to visit. I haven’t been able to get back there yet but hope to do so soon. If you would like more information, please PM me.
Laurie.
217 Sqn and its Neptunes were only based at St Eval for a very short period, mid-January 1952 – 7 April 1952, when they were relocated to Kinloss.
In the Hudson photo, could it be a case of, as yet, unpainted replacement wing panels?
As for the galley photo, the flying clothing worn by the chap in the photo suggests an earlier date than the mid-50s. The Mae-West and the helmet are both more reminiscent of the mid- to late-40s style.
One last comment. In the first photo, rather than receiving a message from the RCC as suggested, the chap appears to making a broadcast on a Tannoy system. The equipment shown is certainly very similar to all Tannoys that I have seen and operated. The airfield map on the wall behind him could show St Eval. The runway layout seems similar.