Lee, I can confirm Ernesettle as the location for VP441 after it left RNEC Manadon. Have never been able to find out where the Saltash reference came from. The aircraft was never there. I did a full, or as full as I could get at the time, rundown on 441’s history which appeared in the July 2004 edition of FlyPast. If you would like a copy of the narrative PM me.
The reference to Biggin Hill also confuses quite a few. Biggin Hill was the name of the main road into Ernesettle and, like the majority of other road names in the estate, it was named after well known RAF stations. The huts that housed 335 Sqn’s HQ were just off Biggin Hill.
Roborough, I joined 335 in May 1960. The airframe remained pretty much intact until around early 1963. At that time there was an arson attack on the training hut nearest the Transit School. After that, it was pretty much ‘open house’ for the local numptys that had not been able to get at it before.
We were more than happy to hear that it was to be moved to Culdrose. That happened mid-January 1964.
Shown below is the last photo that I took of it at Ernesettle as it was being dismantled by MARTSU for road transport to Culdrose. I was also lucky enough to be able to view it at its new home in Montana in May 2005. What a difference!! To see and hear it in the air was experience that I will never forget.
Flanker_man, thanks for posting your photo. One of the better ones that I have seen from VP441’s time at Blackpool.
Mike, checking through my copy of M J F Bowyer’s ‘Fighting Colours’, he indicates, in Chapter Six, that experiments with a grey scheme started in late May 1941, with three Hurricanes of 56 Sqn at Duxford.
A little later in the same chapter he notes that the final grey/green scheme was introduced by Fighter Command on 21 August 1941.
Hope that helps.
Memories!!! My favourite aeroplane.
Crystal Lakes, 20 May 2005.
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J Boyle is absolutely right. But for the present owner’s investment and Ezells excellent restoration, this aircraft would probably still be in pieces gathering dust somewhere. It was a great privilege to be able to see and hear it in the air in May 2005.
Good to see more examples of the type following this aircraft back into the air.
Also does anyone know the answer to Noel’s query about how did the RAAF get their Sabres home to Australia from Butterworth? As they were at war with Indonesia at the time they could not transit through there, so what was the ferrying route?
Dave, IIRC, RAAF Mirages started to replace the Sabres at Butterworth from mid-67 onwards. By that time, Confrontation had finished so routings back to Oz, via Indonesia, should have been possible.
Hopefully, someone can offer a little more detail.
BTW, I saw the 74 Sqn Lightnings on the last leg of their outward journey as they overflew Terendak Camp, Malacca, on the way to Singapore.
Hi all, the ‘History Wall’ is almost done, thought you might like to see the result, and thanks to all those who contributed.
Rick, very nice indeed.
PT.
No.27 Squadron most probably in Malaya in 1941.
Mark
Probably taken at Kallang on 2 April 1941. There is an entry in the Squadron’s ORB which reads:
“The Squadron paraded in front of Aircraft at 07.30 hrs. S/Ldr Hackett, F/Lt. Fowle and F/Lt. Wigfall took off in Flight Formation in order to fly past for the benefit of the United Press, who visited the Station for the purpose of photographing and “writing up” Fighters.”
Thanks for confirming that Mark. I have bookmarked it.
Good to see you posting again.
Dave, please pass on my thanks to Jim.
I have thought from the first that the prop fitted to the ‘Beest in the original photo that I posted was so very much similar to that fitted to the Swordfish. That is why I originally thought it might be a 4 AACU aeroplane.
Have now obtained digital copies of the 100 Sqn ORB and the appendices for that period. No mention at all of a non-standard fit. In fact, no mention of the accident either. So, unfortunately, still none the wiser on that count.
Thanks for the help.
Dave, apologies. Had forgotten to respond to that. Reply now sent.
Dave, a Plt Off C N Gardner arrived on HMT Dunera, 20 May 1939. He was posted to A Flt.
Could this be your man?
I’m guessing most of No. 100 Squadron’s records may have been lost when the Japanese invaded? Or did they get them out ok?
Dave, 100 Sqn’s pre-war ORBs had been sent to the UK at the outbreak of hostilities in Europe. I have just downloaded digital copies of those for the period March 1919 – 3 Sep 1939.
Been going through them this afternoon. Unfortunately, there is no record in them either of this accident or the fitting of the non-standard prop to K2929.
The search continues.
Paul, you have come up trumps again! Your help throughout has been invaluable. Many, many, thanks for that.
Have gleaned a little more info on the aircraft via another, member’s only, forum. Seems it was written-off after this accident as beyond economic repair. Total flying time on the airframe was 834.55 hours. Still trying to ascertain why the non-standard prop was fitted.
Have tried to make contact with the 100 Sqn Assoc via a link on the website but messages have been returned as undeliverable. Trying a new tack now.
Good questions, Dave. No answers though at the moment.
I have a contact for the 100 Sqn Association and will approach them to see if anything exists. However, I suspect that most, if not all, of the records didn’t make it away after the Japanese invasion.
I think I may have found it 100% this time!
28-Sep-37 Vilderbeest K2929 of 100Sqn crashed at Seletar
The Straits Times, 29 September 1937, Page 12
Crashed on Rubber Estate!
Dropped a Drogue!
Force landing in Rubber Plantation on outskirts of Seletar Aerodrome. After motor ‘cut out’. Plane extensively damagde but only one occupant LAC Bolter suffered any injury – Superficial. Machine returning to aerodrome after carrying out exercises and had just dropped a drogue it had been towing when the motor stopped. The pilot had no option but to make a forced landing and brought the machine down in a rubber plantation.
Crew
Flt/Lt Hobler
Lt Home – Royal Artillery
LAC Bolter
Paul,
Jackpot!!!!!
Very well done indeed.
Still leaves us with the three-bladed prop mystery.
Many thanks.
Paul,
Many thanks for that link. Why did I not think of that!?
I am now following a different train of thought on this aircraft. If you look between the wheels, there is some form of equipment mounted under the fuselage. Also, look behind the labourer wearing the turban. There seems to be something projecting out of the aircraft from where the Lewis gun would normally be mounted. I am now wondering if this aircraft was a target tower.
No.4 AACU in Singapore operated Vildebeests in that capacity. That unit also had a few Swordfish on charge from around 1939 onwards. The prop fitted to the aircraft in the photo is very similar to that fitted to Swordfish.
Have another look and see what you think.
Apologies to Dave H for hijacking his German Bombers thread.