It took a while and several attempts. It will not accept the place name of the area that I live in so had to opt for the nearest city!
BR
Laurie
Hi Laurie,
Hope you’ve got all the pics now!I noticed an odd thing in the group photo the other day. Several of the men seem to be wearing what appears to be a wrist band with some kind of insignia on, and, no, it’s not their watch (visible on the other wrist).
What is it?
Hi James,
Sorry, still missing 4 & 5 of the batch that you sent. No’s 1 -3 arrived ok.
As mentioned by the previous posters, the wristband has the WO’s “Tate & Lyles”, the Royal Warrant insignia on it. IIRC, there were 2 ways of wearing it, either on a leather wristband or a white cotton one. Well spotted, I hadn’t noticed that.
BTW, NJ254/V was the first Sunderland flown here in the Far East by the chap that I am researching. He flew it from Glugor, here on Penang Island, to Seletar after it had an engine change. Date, 31 October 1949, flying time, 2 hrs 40 mins. So i now have photos of the first and the last Sunderlands he flew here.
Regards
Laurie.
PS: Sorry, just realised that, of course, it wasn’t ‘Tate & Lyles” for Master (WO) aircrew, it was a Laurel wreath with an eagle in the centre, topped by a crown. Can be seen in the photo of Bill Whyter on page 2.
Hi Laurie,
I passed a print of this thread to Andy, and as well as the photos above, he gave me a Sqn photo (it’s huge, and I’ve scanned it in four sections. The Sunderland is SZ571, and the chap you are researching is second row back, seventh from left. I’ve also scanned him seperately at a higher resolution. Andy says he was in the process of changing his name (from the Polish) and knew him as Marsden. Hope this is of help!Oh, Andy says he was away from the base when the photo was taken, and so he’s not in it… 😉
Cheers
James,
Many thanks for the photos. They are excellent.
Unfortunately, the pilot is not the one that I am researching. There was another Polish chap who joined 209 during 1950 and this could well be him. I’ll check the ORB and come up with a name.
Also, I note that all the SNCO aircrew are wearing chevrons on their sleeves. That dates the photo as after 31 August 1950, when they reverted to this style of rank badging. For the previous 3 years, the much hated ranks of Aircrew 1, 2 and 3, along with Master, had been introduced. Their badges of rank were based on a laurel wreath motif with crowns inside, as you can see in the photo below. The chap I am interested in had already been cross-posted to 60 Sqn at Tengah by that date.
I include a photo of the pilot I am researching below. This was taken whilst he was attending a Maritime conversion course at Kinloss early in 1949.
BR
Laurie.
PS: The Sunderland at Iwakuni coded ‘Y’ could well be SZ571. That was with 209 from 10 June 1950 until 1 January 1953 and carried the ‘Y’ code.
I was looking for any info re aircraft I remember fro my time at Seletar (Aug 1967 to March 1970). When I saw the picture of several Belvederes in that line, my jaw dropped. I went with my Dad to see them. I have not pictures of them like that before.
Likewise the picture of the Beverleys awaiting breaking brought back memories.
I could look at material like this all day and all of the night. I would love a picture of the Javelins nineship, April 1968. (Anyone have the serials?) Also pictures of Andovers of 52 Sqn.Ian
Welcome to the forum, Ian.
I don’t have a Javelin 9-ship in the air, only on the ground, the day after 60 Sqn’s disbandment ceremony. I have posted this before but here it is again. Sorry, don’t have the serials. I do have a 7-ship however.
Also, a photo of Belvedere XG476 in better times.
Good to see the Hastings recognised. Let me guess some of those locations:
TG604 – Colerne
TG513 – Abingdon
TG503 – Finningley
WJ333 & ‘325 – Changi
The last one has got me stumped!
Have been trying to decypher the Sqn No. in the diamond on the fin. Not very clear, unfortunately. It appears to be a three digit number with the last digit, possibly, a 7.
The only Hastings equipped Sqn that would seem to fit the bill is 297. They operated the Hastings for 2 years from November 48 to November 50 and their aircraft were used extensively during the Berlin Airlift. Were some of the aircraft used in that operation modified to carry underslung cargo? That might account for the beam along the bottom of the fuselage.
Have to admit, my knowledge of that period is pretty scant.
I personally could look at images from this period all day. 🙂
Thank you for posting.
Mark
Seconded and thirded!!!!!!
Please keep them coming Grounded.
BR
Laurie.
Oh, yes, thanks lauriebe, especially when we were detached from Bahrain to Sharjah and had to pack everything into an Argosy, on arrival we found a suitable sand dune to put the radar on, living in a tent next to it for the 2 weeks of an air defence exercise – we drank so much pop (non-alcoholic of course) that the money back on the empty bottles paid for a really good alcoholic night out afterwards!
We were a static “mobile” radar. The unit had been in place at Terendak for around 2 years to plug a gap in coverage at the bottom end of Penisular Malaysia during the latter stages of Confrontation.
Previously, it had been in a couple of locations on the east coast in the Kuantan/Mersing area.
Only had to move the kit when we disbanded in April 1968.
There were a couple of other sets here in the Far East, one at Western Hill, Penang, to cover for the TPS 34 that was always throwing a wobbly and packing up. The other, IIRC, was in Singapore.
BR,
Laurie.
Nice to see the old UPS-1 “sweatbox” – around the same date I was responsible for the one at Hamala camp, Bahrain, even with 2 air conditioners running full blast it was the same temperature inside as outside: 140F! Of course it was valve technology – no transistors or integrated circuits in those days.
Never thought I would see one of those again!
Papa Lima,
Does this bring back memories?
Knew I had some photos somewhere but can only lay my hands on one at the moment. The others will no doubt turn up in due course.
BR,
Laurie.
A few Belvedere shots.
These were taken on the 9 April 1968 at Terendak Camp Malacca, when XG476/P of 66 Sqn was lifting out a UPS 1 radar cabin and its associated comms setup.
First shot, setting off to pick up the cabin
Second shot, lifting the cain into the AAC helipad.
Third shot, positioning the radar cabin on a trailer for road transport to Singapore.
Fourth shot, about to lift the Comms cabin onto the lowloader.
BR
Laurie.
Laurie, yes somehow the Bill Whyter photo didn’t appear (probably finger trouble on my part). Here he is.
Steve,
Thanks for posting Bill Whyter’s photo. It’s nice to be able to put a face to the person that supplied most of these great photos.
Would also very much like to see the disbandment shots when you have time to post.
Meanwhile, here’s a few of mine from the same era. The 2 colour Jav formation shots were taken on the evening of 1 April 1968 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the RAF and the disbandment of the small mobile radar unit I was serving on at the time. The location is Terendak Military Camp, near Malacca.
The black and white shot is of the final Jav line-up taken the morning after 60 Sqn’s disbandment at Tengah on 30 April 1968.
Sorry for the poor quality. The colour shots were taken at sunset and the main formation of 7 aircraft made 2 passes before the 4 aircraft broke away and performed a further 2 passes with reheat on. There was also a Lightning from 74 Sqn but, because of his speed, I was unable to get any usable photos.
BR
Laurie
OK
Beverleys at Labuan (I have posted this one before, a year or so ago)
Harts of 39 Squadron at Risalpur
Hastings C.4 WJ325 of the Middle East Communications Flight at Bahrain on 30 October 1962 (not Far East I know, just stretching it a bit)
Spitfire 18s of 32 Squadron at Nicosia
Sunderlands at Seletar in 1951 (2 shots)
Master Navigator Bill Whyter (who took quite a few of the colour shots in this thread) in his “office” aboard a 105 Squadron Argosy
Shackleton MR.2 of 205 Squadron low over the sea off Singapore
Victor B.1A XH588 of the Honington Wing also off Singapore
The last two shots are more refugees from rubbish bins, this time the bowels of an MoD building years ago
Steve,
These are gems. Thanks for posting. I remember the Beverley shot from your earlier post.
The 2 Sunderland shots were especially interesting to me as they are aircraft flown by the chap I am researching. From the codes, both would be 209 Sqn aeroplanes. ‘X’ in the hangar should be RN303 and ‘Z’ could well be PP164. I am awaiting copies of the AM F’s 78 at the moment to confirm details of the dates these aircraft were with 209.
BR
Laurie.
PS: Couldn’t see Bill Whyter’s photo in this batch.
Laurie,
Just noticed your second question. Yes, I do have some more FEAF Vampire shots, but they are not scanned yet, so it will take a while. While you are waiting, how about these 33 Squadron Hornets out of Butterrworth?
Steve,
Excellent. I think that Dave Collins will also be interested in the Hornet stuff.
I will certainly hang on for the Vampire stuff.
Many thanks.
BR,
Laurie.
Albert, yummy Meatbox shots, thanks again. I have a set of air to airs taken during the disbandment flypast which may interest you – the formation comprised 3 TT.20s and 2 F(TT).8s.
Laurie, no problem with using the shot of RN303 – please credit Bill Whyter via myself.
Since you seem to like these, here are a few more:
Hercules C.1 XV290 70 sqn, in the Seychelles Jan 75
The Malaysian jungle seen from a Sunderland
Meteor F.8s at Seletar, en route to Korea 1951 (4 shots)
Mosquito PR.34 PF621 of 81 Squadron at Seletar 1951
Vampire FB.5 taxying in at Seletar in 1951; the first of the type in theatreTo be followed by a few Spitfires for Mark12
Steve,
Many thanks for that and wilco on the credits. If I PM you my email address, is there any chance you might be able to email me a higher definition copy of the RN303 photo and the Vampire arrival?
FYI, the Vampires arrived in Singapore during the afternoon of 2 December 1950. They made 2 circuits of the Island before landing at Seletar where they were met by the AOC in C. Six arrived after a ferry flight from the UK on that day.
If you or Bill have any more photos similar to these I would be very, very interested in seeing them. Photos of Vampires in the Far East seem to be as rare as rocking horse droppings!
BR
Laurie.
– love the flying flat iron; thanks for these.
Forgive my ignorance,.. was that the nickname for the Javelin ?
Cheers
TNZ
Correct
BR
Laurie.
Since there are a few threads now with some really nice older photographs appearing, may I offer another small selection of the RAF in warmer climes:
Beverley C.1 XB260 taxying in at Seletar on delivery from the UK
Beverley C.1 of 53 Squadron at Port Harcourt, Nigeria, July 1960
Beverley C.1 XB286 of 47 Squadron at Accra, Ghana, July 1960
Sunderland MR.5 RN303 of 205 Squadron at China Bay, September 1958At the risk of offering up too many photos (with recent discussions on this topic in mind), there are plenty more like this if anyone is interested.
Steve,
Excellent photos.
I was particularly interested in the shot of Sunderland RN303. Circa mid-1950, this aircraft joined 209 Sqn as “X” replacing ML881. It was flown out from Wig Bay to Seletar over the period 3 – 9 May 1950 by Fg Off K J Evans and crew of 209 Sqn.
During its early time with 209 it was flown by a Polish pilot that I am currently researching. In fact, he flew his last Sunderland sortie (Seletar – Kuching – Seletar on 15 August 1950) in RN303 before being posted over to 60 Sqn at Tengah to fly Spitfire FR XVIII’s/Vampire FB5’s & 9’s.
I am trying to obtain photos of aircraft that he flew during his RAF career and would like to include this one in the notes and possible article that I am compiling. May I have your permission to do that please? Might you have anymore photos of this aircraft?
BR
Laurie.