Almost certainly two different airframes. There are external differences in the photos of the two aircraft.
A little info from the ABIX site which I hope they won’t mind me sharing here.
EC-47P, 43-48886, arrived at Paya Lebar Airport, Singapore, on 29 Apr 75 carrying refugees. It was impounded on arrival and handed over to the US authorities but later sold to the Singapore AF. Seems that although it might have been evaluated by the RSAF for possible use, that was not the case and the aircraft was left parked up. It, and several other ex-SAFTECH airframes, were moved to the Sentosa display site in November 79. It was scrapped in 1987.
Laurence, Penang is still a nice place to live.
Laurence, the Air-Britain Information Exchange (AB-IX) is a members only site within Yahoo groups. If you are a member of Air-Britain you can ask to join the group so a link posted here would not get you to the photo unfortunately.
The other photo, as I mentioned, taken in 1978, shows the same view of the aircraft but in a different position from that in the photos above. There are no buildings behind it, only bushes/trees.
I have seen another photo of this aircraft on the Air-Britain Information Exchange site. It was taken by an ex-student at the Poly in 1978. That student has also been trying to identify the aircraft, so far without success.
Attached below are some of the last photos that I took of VP441 outside our ATC Sqn HQ in Ernesettle, Plymouth.
They were taken in mid-January 1964 as she was being recovered by a team from the RN. As is evident in the photos, she had suffered a great deal at the hands of some mindless local vandals. We were sorry to lose her but glad that she was to be preserved.
That was the last time that I saw this aircraft until I visited Ezells facility at Breckenridge, Texas, in May 2001.
Pagen01, yes, this aeroplane was allocated to my old ATC Sqn, 335 (2nd Plymouth), as a training airframe in 1958. It fitted in between two of our wooden training huts with the wings folded.
Had it not been able to fit in that space, it would have been scrapped by the Royal Naval Engineering College at Manadon, Crownhill, Plymouth. It remained with us until mid-January 1964 when it was recovered to RNAS Culdrose for restoration to static standard.
Stunning pic, Laurie 🙂
Daz, thanks.
It was taken on a Canon A75 point and shoot, the only digital camera that I had then. Wish that I had moved onto a better digital camera earlier to do the aircraft justice.
Since the question of whether or not there was a Singapore Auxilary Air Force was raised in this thread, I have been doing some research into that. Recently, I came across the site in this link:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/rj/jica-aas/airforce/index.html
It bears out what I had always believed and that is there was no seperate Singapore Auxiliary Air Force. The Singapore units, both flying squadrons and the FCU, were an overall part of the Malayan Auxililary Air Force (MAAF) while that existed.
The site is very informative and well worth reading through.
Thanks Steve. Ezells in Breckenridge did a great job.
A lot of thanks also go to the two Marks from this forum, 12 and V, for the grand job on the markings and colour scheme.
Let “Google” be your friend:
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?p=1675704
First post on that page.
Have looked through Air-Britain’s “Fleet Air Arm Fixed Wing Aircraft since 1945”. It seems that 030/R at that time was XN977. The other aircraft in the strike pair, 021/R, was most likely XT275. Perhaps Lee Howard, one of the co-authors of that excellent tome, can provide more info.
Have also browsed through ‘Phoenix Squadron’ again but can’t find any reference to the codes of tankers. Anyone know what they might be? Might be able to trace a serial number then.
Yes, but it 1987 not ’97. Great stuff on this site and, tantalyzingly, someone hinting that he might have a copy…or is he just toying with us???
The ’97’ in the title of the PPRUNE thread refers to the number of the IOT course that was passing out. In this case, No. 97 Initial Officer’s Training Course. It does not refer to the year.
I remember this flypast as I was driving past the College, en route to Innsworth, when the formation first flew overhead on the authorised pass. I heard the noise from the other passes but did not see them. Wish I had.
stendec7, are you referring to this incident:
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/134346-97-iot-fly-past.html
Was this the accident that Norman Tebbit was involved in ??
Arc
Would appear not. His name does not feature among the other pilots involved.
16 Dec 53, three Meteor F8s; WA769, WA930 & WH283, were all abandoned after running out of fuel trying to land at Waterbeach after failed GCAs.
The pilot of the fourth aircraft, WE510, Fg Off Weerasinghe, was seriously injured in a forced landing rather than abandon his aircraft.
Hope that helps.
Info from Colin Cummings’ book ‘Last Take-off’.