that poster, BTW got arrested for his trouble.

Are you sure coz that’s pretty bad! Do you have any more details?
If a guy who posted it got arrested, what about the spotters who continue their work even today?

its not just anyone that could get hold of photos of still secret military projects within china (or any other nation for that matter). most of these pics are either ‘leaked’ by employees at major weapons manufactures or the companies themselves to show how well they are doing behind the shroud of secrecy the chinese authorities put up. if this is case, then is probably in theirs (and ours if we still want more ‘leaked’ pics in the future) that they remian anonomus..

if i met them im not really sure if i should thank them or shout at them, cos its not good to tell others too much abt what ur military can do.

Leaks are probable but also a risk to both the employees and the company, if the Chinese are serious about keeping the project under wraps. Some other pics are clearly magazine scans. Others are simply those photographed by guys snooping around the airbase.

Hey sabreace, did you draw the pic of the dinosaur that you’re using as your avatar? If so, very nice…

Not at all. I just googled for it! 😀

CMF (Chinese Military Forum) – D – Full of idiots with no posters who are actually from the Chinese mainland or works with the PLA. Same building with the equally trashy Bharat Rakshak forum with servers actually located somewhere in Texas—how is that for authenticity? It’s only salvation is the leaks and translations from WMF and DS.

This is by far the stupidest, most asinine, embarrassing and idiotic BS to come from you yet. Yes, we all know that highly nationalist CMF was actually setup by BR and all posters are BR members. 😀

Well then, congrats to them for coming up with so many original pics and info. 😀

Have you realised that 95% of all chinese internet posters are not from the mainland either? Besides, how do you know if anyone works for the PLA or not?

CDF in contrast, has no real chinese origins and never concentrated on those topics.

Just one question. If the J-10 is secret, why is/was a picture of it on Chengdu’s official page?

About the picture, are those official handouts or were they taken by a spotter? If the J-10 is secret and the spotter cannot be credited (he’s been doing a superb job) because of risk to himself, how can CAC use his pic?

Your LCA is a good start but nobody thinks it’s in the same class as the J10

Not really. From what’s known from both sides, it seems better tech wise. But then again, J-10 specs are unoffical. Aerodynamics wise, from a layman’s PoV, the J-10 seems better off though.

Just becuz some of the journalists are retards you should not consider every report as a hoax.

This is so typical of Pakistani journalists reporting military stuff. The military guys have a field day making fools of these guys

I’d probably agree with you if it were’nt for almost every paper or site reporting the exact same thing. Like I said, one journalist cannot be at fault here. From that janes report, even the author is totally clueless as to what the hell’s going on, if anything at all.

When a missile H-4 was tested after the indian astra test, it was mentioned as ‘out of sight’. Seemingly reliably, it was learnt from several other reports that the missile may have been a PL-8 variant with OFB capability, which makes sense.

Pakistanis should come up with some reliable facts and orbat instead of this laughable BS that makes no sense everytime. The H-x are probably powered glide bombs, types of which pakistan experimented with years ago.

Heres a poor quality pic of the smaller P106 design- co-production was discussed with Saab, and it looks a bit like a Gripen don’t you think?

Is’nt it bad enough that some in your government think that the Gripen is a better choice or is simply better than the Typhoon?

Thanks SD-10 for posting that long, detailed and for once, reliable article. I see that the range is more or less the R-77’s unlike what was previously rumored.

Why of course, it will force the Indians into buying the more advanced versions of the R-77.

They’re buying it anyway. Let’s not forget that Pakistan is not only waiting for a chinese seeker but also a chinese engine on the carrier aircraft.

Is it possible to trigger an AAM’s proximity fuse if it flys through chaff?

The F-16XL looks futuristic even by today’s standards. How would it have compared with a Mirage-2000?