Hi
A very simple answer, Not nuke (in any case)

When I see that the Australians are planning to build 12 new submarines while they have enormous difficulty using 6 vessels :rolleyes:(technical problems, ect ….). And the price of future submarines will soon increase

The question “nuclear ?” does not even arise !!!

In my opinion, there are 3 major “questions” :
– The “real” number” : 12 is “huge” compared to current 6 :rolleyes:…(increase in sailor, training, pay, shore facilities, ect…)……personnally….maybe only 6 or 8 (max ?)
– The “final Model”: by 2015/2020, which will be the ideal model ?, Spanish S-80, Swedish type A26, the Spano/French Scorpene (or a improved Scorpene ?), & Japanese improved Soryu class ?
– When: Very likely by 2018-2025…
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Visby class is a looker thou…

No….
in the Pacific, the Australian ship needs reliable ships (with long endurance)
No “Ferrari”, stealth ships with short legs :rolleyes:

So, we can expect more orders being placed abroad? The Mistral story may only be the tip of the iceberg.

I seriously doubt that the Russian buy destroyers/frigates/corvettes abroad …. it would mean the end of their naval industry

Swamped with foreign orders?! Like, Gorshkov and a few Talwar IIs for India, a couple of corvettes for Vietnam? (Am I missing any orders?)

The Russian shipyards are in a state of great weakness

Interesting scenario. Though I wonder if the Ukranian naval yards are in any better position or condition than the Russian yards are: it’s not that they’ve been churning out navy ships in recent years. What other parties might Russia consider should it decide to order abroad?

doubtful scenario, Ukrainian shipyards without with only a handfull of engineers/designers…I do not see Russian engineers/designers left the Russian shipyards for Ukrainian shipyards (even with more money). A warship, ca does not conceive this overnight

There is some (doubtfull) hope for the hms queen elizabeth
but personally, I have no more to the prince of wales (only a dream)
A 130-160 million $ (?200?) piece for the F-35, the british will never have enough money to buy 50-70 aircraft.

We are heading toward 25/35 aircraft … and 1 aircraft carrier … in the best case….
As for the entire cancellation of the program, it is still possible, expecting the end of 2010 :rolleyes:

unfortunately i dont think any of that will happen. I dont think the UK will in the near future seriously look at adding an anti ballistic missile aspect to the type 45’s,

I agree
Very expensive for a only one country to develop a ABM system
The solution is…..european…..(A super aster ?)

For the type 26
I do not believe that VLS are greatly different from those used on the daring (history of having a certain commonality in the fleet). Simply, the VLS on type 26 will probably launch cruise missiles of British or European type.

but I remain very cautious about the type 26
All these recent announcements fall well before the british elections

From thinking that after the elections ….. all the promises and pledges disappear in smoke ..:rolleyes:

I can’t see Canada buying them. We have a proud tradition of wearing our equipment out before looking into replacing it. The Halifax class will soldier on for a long while yet. We need to replace our Athabaskan class destroyers first. And from what I heard it will be an enlarged Halifax version.Most contries are making stealthier boats. I wish we would follow the trend. But atleast our boats are built in house.Voodoo

In fact, The Canadian destroyer of the Athabaskan class will never be replaced (& probably decommissioned by 2012/2015). Canadians consider simply replacing in the futur while their destroyers/frigates by a common class. As for Halifax class, they will last another one decade. But it is clear that the Canadian navy will need to change its frigates by 2020.

Very likeky a new class of 12 (maybe 8/9 :D) big frigates (5500/6800 tons) to replace 15 olders ships (3 Athabaskan, 12 Halifax).

Brief remained faithful
– with the budgetary restrictions still stronger
– Replaced old vessels with larger and more expensive warships
– more expensive ships = fewer ships

Canadians also follow (and will broadly follow) the trend :dev2:

The only advantage in this whole mess is that the deadlines for various countries (UK, Canada, Australia, New-Zealand) arrive at the same time (new generation of frigate needed around 2018/2024). Hence the possibility for various countries to buy the same class of ship

For the Brazil need (around 6/8 ships), the French FREMM design is well placed

The type 26 is now only in design phase

But without doubt, a international collaboration between UK, australia, new-zeland could become very effective (& maybe canada ?)
Futur requirement (2018-2030):
– New zeland: 2
– Canada: 8/12
– Australia : 8
– UK 😀 around 8/12 ?
+ others exports…..

Critics: Time to bail on Navy JSF
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/03/navy_hornet_jsf_032110w/
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