80 DH89A Domine (Dragon Rapide) G-AIDL / 81 Airspeed Consul
A few poor ones and a few good ones left.
80 DH89A Domine (Dragon Rapide) G-AIDL
No caption. Hurn, on or after 9th April 1952.
Possibly one of the least good photos ever published of “The Wander”, Googling on this aircraft’s registration gives well over 100 good hits.
C/n 6968 built 1946 and registered as TX310 but immediately declared surplus, it was brought by Allied Airways Ltd (as G-AIDL) and used as the personal aircraft of Eric Gandar Dower. By the early 1950’s, it was owned by Goodhew Aviation Limited. Did they operate it in 1952?
After a very long service history (most of which is here: http://www.cct.u-net.com/c:%5CHACHomepage/DH89G-AIDL.html) , its now operated by Air Atlantique and frequently seen out and about.
81 Airspeed Consul
No caption. Any body recognize the livery?
Anybody identify the aircraft in the background (which are sharper than the consul…)?
If only it was on this forum that I heard about it!
Fair point. May be that’s why I only come here for a couple of weeks every 4 or 5 months.
£5 better spent in the airfield caff! 😉
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You don’t actually have to read the threads…. :p :ducks:
Personally I’m sick of hearing about both these aircraft.
I’m past caring if 558 ever flies or 391 is scrapped.Totally underwhelmed by the predicament of both is how I feel.
Later
A.
Other than the undercarriage collapsing, I woudn’t have thought it is likely to fall apart?
Stress corrosion (damp, salt air plus aluminium alloys) will reduce any airframe to dust. Its just a matter of time.
XL391 will never fly again. I hope XH558 will. I’ll be watching XM655 fast taxi on Sunday (£’s make planes fly).
79 DH98 Mosquito
No caption
Clearly at Hurn, possibly August 1952.
Sadly, the picture is too blurred for a serial number (or indeed anything very identifying).
Anyone care to identify the mark and guess the unit?
78 Vickers Viscount 700 G-A???
No caption.
By comparison with 77 (VT-DEO) this photo was taken on 29th August 1952 at London Heathrow. My father did not note any ‘first seen’ Viscounts that day, but in the middle of a selection of numbers for the 29th at Heathrow is G-ALWE, Hurn 28th August 1952 which may mean that he saw this aircraft again next day (or maybe something else reminded him?)
It is not a 600 series prototype from the fuselage length and number of windows. In any case, the first prototype was in bits in Kartoum having suffered a collapsed undercarridge on the 27th.
It might be either 700 series G-AMAV (see http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=335949&postcount=19) or 701 series G-ALWE or G-ALWF. The latter were built in 1952 but I can’t determine when or if the might have been in BEA colours at Heathrow in late August 1952.
77 Lockheed L-749A Constellation VT-DEO
Captioned “Constellation VT-DEO London 29th August 1952 (Comet LYS behind port wheel)”
Surprisingly little information on this machine. One of four newly built aircraft to join Air India from 1949, VT-DEO was named ‘Bengal Princess’ according to http://www.airwhiners.net/whine_cheez/20040726.htm. The same source notes that the survivors (VT-DEP was destroyed by a sabotage supposedly by the KMT and CIA) were sold to Aeronaves de Mexico after January 1958.
Anybody know what its registration in Mexico was and what became of it?
AJ Jackson pictured it with Air India (http://www.ajjcollection.co.uk/l1.htm)
Since it was captioned… DH106 Comet 1 s/n 6005 G-ALYS served with BOAC until withdrawn in 1954. It was the first jet airliner with a CoA as such. It was reported being dismantled at Farnborough at the time of the 1957 SBAC show http://www.scramble.nl/mil/show/showreports/farnbo57.htm.
Of course! I’d forgotten
76 Percival Proctor G-AHZY
Caption “Proctor HZY Shoreham 2nd August 1952”
A Procter 5 c/n AE84 according to G-INFO. According to http://pascal.brugier.free.fr/registre/txt/oo-aaa.txt, it spent time on the Belgian register as OO-ARM and is apparently still in existence at the Royal Army and Military History Museum in Brussels, although I couldn’t find any pics on the web – can anyone post any?
AJ Jackson pictured the aircraft 5 times http://www.ajjcollection.co.uk/ahaa.htm.
75 DH94 Moth Minor Coupe G-AFOJ
Caption “Moth Minor Coupe Shoreham 2nd August 1952”
G-INFO has this as c/n 9407, first registered 27-Jul-39. Its CoA expired 27-Aug-69 and owner named as RM Long of Romford.
During its life, it was registered as E-1(G) and E-0236(G) according to http://pascal.brugier.free.fr/registre/txt/g-aaaa.txt; I presume Spanish but why the “(G)”’s? AJ Jackson only got three in of this one http://www.ajjcollection.co.uk/d9.htm).
It is pictured at Gatwick’s Beehive Terminal in 1956 at http://www.gatwickaviationsociety.org.uk/displayfullimage.asp?pimg=g-afoj&pTitle=The+Beehive+Terminal+Building+1956&pCopy=Mick+Elliott+Collection and otherwise listed at the DH Museum at London Colney (http://www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk/aircraft.html). It’s not clear what its condition is, but it seems to be on display (must go there) – Bruce?
Direct link to pics http://www.juhe.at/presse/article/Traunkirchen/1118689835.html
Came across this on a search (for Middle Wallop) so please excuse a slightly old thread being dug up.
iirc, in Night Fighter, there is frequent reference to Cunningham being very careful to obtain a visual id on an aircraft before attacking. I seem to think he called Rawnsley up to confirm on occasion (maybe when in Mossie’s later on). Could go either way as a arguement.
What would a Wellington be easily mistaken for from below and behind? He111 or Do17/215/217 have pretty distinctive outlines. Ju88 but that’s easy to mistake for a Wellington either?
As Moggy C rightly implies, the He177 might be a contestent in the ‘most under-rated thread’. No way is it over-rated. It was potentially a very significant bomber and when operated by KG40 etal started to be effective (anti-shipping). Its only real vice was a tendency to burn due to trying to combine two engines into one nacelle. Clearly not good if you happen to be flying one.
In terms of over-rated, I’d go with the Fw200 Condor. A converted airliner whose only virtue was range. Successful therefore as recce platform and for attacking lightly defended targets with small bombs but hopeless against determined defence, over-manned, minimal bomb load and (and this is the clincher for me) structurally inadequate such that the back frequently broke or buckled in service.
Shackleton St Austell
Ten thousand rivets falling apart in loose formation… 🙁