true but the NV did not have the different types of aircraft that the Soviet have,niether the Number of jet aircraft.

Saying the americans faced the best defended city in the world it is a lie, Moscow was better defended even Berlin, the point is that statement is to give a excuse for the poor results a super power achieved.

Could you please think before your write on this forum!!!! Your statement are amaizing, it sounds like you were flying over Hanoi doging SAM with the US. AIR FORCE,went over Moscow to test their air defense system and just before that flew during World War II over Berlin!!! As mentioned before the US government put restrictions on which targets could destroyed in North Vietnam, many of them were SAM sites close to Hanoi.

I talked to a US B-52 pilot who flew from Guam to Hanoi during Linebacker mission, it was hell to fly over or even nearby this area just by the concentration of SAMs and AAA. There are numerous accounts from pilots who flew those missions who say the same again and again and here your are pretending and assuming they what those guys lived mean nothing!!! who are you to make those statments?? the only one who can really tell and know what they are talking about are those who went there.

On top of that, don’t you think that if give the opportunity the boys form the US. AIR FORCE would not have taken them down while the North Vietnamese were in the process of building them!!!

Don’t you think that if the US. NAVY would have been allowed to go after the ships brining SAMs to Haiphong it would have a major impacts

Not all of them were delivered. When Irak invaded Kuwait some Mirage F-1 were still in France and they were immediately put under embargo, After I got no idea what happened to them, anybody knows??

I found this article about the Mirage 2000 sold to Brazil

Brazil Purchases 12 Used Mirage 2000 Fighter from France

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?prod=60148&session=dae.17183400.1138427731.Q9sHU8Oa9dUAADlRn6s&modele=jdc_1

(Source: compiled by defense-aerospace.com; published July 18, 2005)

Brazil has purchased twelve surplus Mirage 2000 combat aircraft. The agreement was signed during the official visit to Paris by Brazilian President Lula da Silva to Paris, where he was the guest of honour for the July 14th Bastille Day celebrations.

The Elysee Palace announced the agreement was signed by Brazilian Foreign Affairs minister Celso Amorim and French Defence minister Michelle Alliot-Marie.

The aircraft, fitted with the RDI pulse-doppler radar, were previously flown by the French air force and are being supplied at a price of approx. 85 million euros, including ground support equipment. Originally agreed to in the spring, the deal was held up by the high price requested by the French air force for an engine test bed required by Brazil, sources say.

Just imagine the Mirage 2000 in Irak during the First Gulf War!!! The version that the Irak Air Force was the 2000D to allow them deep strike capability in Iran

The Irak Air Force wanted to buy the Mirage 2000 in the mid 80’s even considered to have an assembly line set-up in country however the main issue was that they wanted the French to finance the whole operation and pay later on.

The French Defense minister Mr. Hernu was up-beat about it as well as Dassault BUT the French Finance minister, Mr. Beregovoy refused to lend the money for this project then it did not happen and this how the Irak Mirage 2000 saga ended

At the moment no, however who knows in 5 or 10 years from now those Mirage 2000 might come handy. When the British ended their aircraft carriers few later with what happened in the South Atlantic their F-4 would have been useful

It is an open forum, we are entitled to share our opinion, nobody has the Right Answer to this thread, it is up to each one of us who are interested to make our idea about it.

This thread is about the MiG-29K and the SU-30MKK not about Chinese or Indian and God knows what other topic.. thank you

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