Well done that man !! ( Allan) CS Great find indeed.
Bill T.
RRRRR gets more interesting. Agree with Creaking Door, definitely on the oil can. That has to date box to 1950’s—60’s. CS, Would you mind unwrapping the Spanner/tool and post pics. in here ? It looks something like a RR Avon Spanner I have somewhere buried in loft. The kit is remarkable, brand new and looks unused.
Bill T.
Senior Citizens united !!!!!
Just hang in there a while, Bruce and Co Might well chime in soon. Is that wrapped item in lid a spanner of some sort ? Makes me think they could be Wing Spar Bolt hole reamers.
Bill T.
Ahhhha !!! Minute differences.
Mike,
I see what you mean about the Sea-Hawk wheels being slightly different to ones in your pics. on Trolley, in respect that the 4 “Discs” on “Trolley” wheel pics. are fitted on the side where detachable rim is. Also your pics. don’t show wheel having that small recessed “Clip” (which held an inflation extension at some point in time. ) So looks like Varsity Nose wheels might be the answer, if you really need wheels to be absolute originals. (You could fasten 4 of your own make discs to a Sea- Hawk Nosewheel of course– !!!!!!!!!! and fill in “Clip” recess with filler—————Der, I’ll get me coat !!!!!!)
Lol !!! Have fun,
Bill T.
Wow !! nice find.
Bill T.
Nice progress Rob !!!
Sorry we missed you at Cockpit Fest Rob, but you are progressing the Wyvern really well, might catch up in Oct.
Bill T.
Excellent satisfactory conclusion guys, Yaaaass !! Now where to find the elusive types of wheels. ( S/Hk nosewheels do have the circular discs on other side of wheel too, I just never took pics. of that side 😮 )
Bill T.
Possibilities Mike !!!
Hi Mike,
That wheel looks like could be a Sea- Hawk one to me, fitted with a late MK of Spitfire tyre. The sizes quoted in my Dunlop list is:- 26″x6.50″x14″ which about fits in with your size estimates. Here’s Pics. of 2 I’ve just donated to Gatwick Aviation Museum (For their Sea-Hawk that was the late Peter Vallances first Aircraft he obtained. ) ( Very sorry Mike ,as I would have happily donated em to Bluebird project but might be worth talking to them as they only have one Sea-Hawk. ) Anyhow, looking through my Dunlop Lists for Aircraft period Wheels The Sea- Hawk wheels are:- AH 9238 and AH 9548 and these would have been manufactured from around 1949 through to 1960, which seems to fit in with the criteria for BlueBirds construction.
Also note the following Nose wheels are same size, (or very close).
AH 9590 Shackleton
AH 8373 Varsity T Mk 1 ( 26″x7.75″x 13″ )
AH 9139 Vampire T11 / Sea Vampire ) Same size as above.
AH 9199 And AH 50028 Ambassador –:–:—:——:—-
So at least you now have an idea of what’s around. Bet someone will come up with something. Best wishes on the project too.
Bill T.
Owch !! Yes !!!! quite. Presume that is just hire charges ? Unless twin Otter can sweet talk Firm into a sponsoring for Event. 😉 (I’ll get me coat. )
Bill T.
Glad to be able to put thoughts down while still fresh in mind 06. Forgot to mention also that inside displays very enjoyable too. Watched a deal taking place for a Meteor Instrument panel sale, so people were definitely having a great time anyway, in-spite of all day heavy rain. I’m sure other C/pit Fest folks will add their festival experiences in here too, I always enjoy reading about that and of course Forumites overseas get an idea of what took place too. Only regret is I took no pics cos didn’t want to wet camera, but I’m sure some brave souls did. (Lets hope they post em back in here).
So lets read about your C/pit fest experiences forumites, because it was very enjoyable time in spite of bad weather.
Bill T.
Hi Runway06,
Was just thinking about a write -up about visit yesterday to a very wet Cockpit fest, good nudge, so here we go:-
Heading off from a warm-ish ,dry, North Wales with Terry P for a leisurely drive and arrival for 10:30am,we hit the bad weather over hills then that continued down to Newark, where we joined other very wet ,staff and enthusiasts at C/pit Fest 2015. Stepping out of car into a big puddle got trainers/feet soaked immediately,(good start ) so after heaving on gear and flicking up brollies, we squelched our way to entrance. It was then I noticed most sensible people were wearing “Wellies” 😮 There seemed to be plenty of vehicles parked up outside so a lot of folks were around. Met up with a very wet ,but cheerful “Bill” on main gate and exchanged a few words and shook hands and in we went. ( Think “Twin Otter” was there too )
Was great to meet up with old and new friends and place faces again. Nice to see quite a selection of C/pits and aerojumblers, but the heavy rain seemed to be keeping most folks away or inside somewhere and of course quite a few C/pits were covered up(Eminently understandable) Did my rounds of it all, commiserated with most of the very wet Aerojumblers/cockpiteers, many of whom just could not keep their wares dry, everyone quite cheerful about it all though. The event was as ( always) well organized but once again ,let down by UK weather but the public who were there seemed quite happy too so it was well worth us going.
Inside the 2 main hangers bumped into and had long chats and catch-ups with forumites and pals. We all did our deals /swops,etc, and by end of our visit I had picked up 2 Oxy Clips and a temp gauge from Outside jumblers. Had a meet up with Anon and rest of Nth West Contingent huddled under their gazebo’s . Was also great to finally meet up with Pete Sharp (Ex-RAF Armourer and Valiant man) we stood yapping for so long suddenly Terry P was tapping me on shoulder as time to head back off to home.
So to:- Chris/Richard/Gary/Pete/Ian/Ritchie/Alan/Allan/ Nth West Contingent and many others, great to C U all again.
Twin Otter, (thought),
As C/pit Fest weather seems to be quite unpredictable, you know, a big marque put up in Aerojumblers area as a community jumble dry place would definitely bring more folks in to purchase from jumblers on inclement days.( Thinking more of the folks who were operating out of car boots and inadequate gazebo’s really) and obviously these marque’s aren’t cheap to hire, but definitely worth a Committee thought or 9. Salute to you and all staff for the event and especially the outfielders weathering it all. We’ll be back (of course what ever ).
Bill T.
Canopy polishes and polishing.
Here’s some canopy polishes in progress and somewhat worse condition canopies. Last one is of course :- Extreme !!!!. Terry P’s Venom one and a Hunter Canopy being attacked shown. The RAF Used to use GREYGATE Plastic polish,(don’t know if they still do). This is to DTD 770A std. made by Greygate Chemicals, Leicester. This polish is a softer version than Brasso. Scratches I take out using a small half round file to get to bottom of scratch, then smooth edges. Use sandpaper next in finer grades, then after a session using :- SCOTCH-BRITE you start on the BRASSO. A long tedious process, helped if you use a slowed down rotary electric sander /buffing cloth soaked in Brasso /GreyGate, etc. and eventually it comes out superbly polished. Terry P’s Venom canopy had quite a lot of these scratches, but all came out OK in end. So your eventual finish depends on how bad your canopy is x the square of how many multi polishing sessions your brain and general demeanour can stand. A can or 5 of that well known Kentish Beverage consumed during sessions helps. 😉
How did you guys get on with your canopy restorations ?
Bill T.
Hi Fouga,
Presume you mean for Flying Aircraft ? There are proprietary approved cleaners /polishers available that need basically a heck of a lot of polishing work, but do bring up the surfaces brilliantly. If you have scratches, these can also be filed ,scraped then polished out, BUT you have to work within the Aircraft Servicing manual’s tolerances and once completed an inspector will be checking for any sighting distortions from inside C/pit, before job is signed off.
For Non Flying Canopies,
Same amount of polishing ( Brasso works well ) and you’ve more scope for remedial work on scratches, grooving even crazing, but no inspectors to worry about. Graham Sparkes did a really good job on his crazed Sea Hawk canopy and I spent a lot of time on Terry P’s Venom canopy, which came out pretty good, that had a lot of bad scratches in it and the whole exercise took me about 80 man hours, which was B********* hard going but it looked great when done. Unfortunately, it collected another bad scratch in transit somewhere and I’ve been in hiding ever since–lol !!! :D:very_drunk:
I’m sure I took pics, at the time of the progress as we went, will post em back in here when I find em. So let forumites in here know what canopy in particular you have in mind and how bad it is, cos static display canopies are always :- Baaaaaad !!!!! and owners can always find excuses to put off for as long as possible—-;)
lol !!!!! Bill T.
Hi D 747,
I’ve still got 2 Nose Wheels and one Nose Tyre (One wheel is New Old Stock. all are in good condition) left over from my days of owning WV-903. You are most welcome to any combination of these. Have sent you a PM.
Bill T.
Interesting thread guys, glad to see this stuff being recorded. My Dad was born in 1917 and died in 1981, a very posh speaking Brummie (if there is such a person ) He joined RAF in 1939 and trained up as an Engine Fitter and reached the dizzy height of LAC. Sent over to France on a Blenheim Sqdn. he was caught at Dunkirk and although he spoke very little about it, I found out from my mother many years later that he had got to the coast and got on a destroyer back to UK. Back in the 1950’s we watched some of the :-” War in The Air “series on TV and during one programme about the Battle for France, there was a film shot of a Tiger Moth landing there and he jumped out of chair and said:- “That’s the Tiger Moth that delivered our mail”. I know also that he had some good Senior NCO Air Crew friends flying the Blenheims and they were all killed and I don’t think he ever got over that. He contracted a bad stomach ulcer and was invalided out of RAF in 1943. But before that he spent time when in UK on Baders Sqdn. and I’m afraid to say his opinion of Bader is unprintable here.
Seeing as how today is 70 years on from the VE day parties held around UK, I myself remember our street party in Birmingham very well. I was 4 years old at the time and we had the bunting strewn across between the houses and wooden tables and benches lined up in the street. People were so pleased the war was over, but of course austerity went on for another 9 years and bombed out houses littered the area for years after too. In Sandford Road near the Western end ran the relief railway line that got heavily bombed before we moved back to Birmingham and 2 houses (5 up from ours) got a direct hit. I used to play in the crater and got chased out by police a few times. It was a flipping big crater too, unless I was small and it only seemed that way, full of bricks and rubble, eventually it was filled in around 1948-9 and 2 new house built there. You can see where it was as these house are lower and different to the others on that side of road.
Bill T.