Great spot for No.47, Peter, thank you. It is becoming increasingly clear that pieces of the undercarriage are scattered at some distance from location 12 where Laurent had been digging. When Laurent has his scanner back in action we will be able to get a clearer idea of where all the latest discoveries are positioned.

Yes, I see what you mean about 49C. WV-903 thought about electrical use. If this piece is also from the undercarriage well, maybe a closer look in this area would be worthwhile?

Also, if you have a look at the picture for 47 (post #452) you will see another item in the centre of the picture which has the same sort of material as in 49C and with a keyhole shaped aperture attached to a piece of fuselage. Maybe another clue? See picture attached.

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A further thought – could our spindle be from the locking gear (No.47)? It is a little difficult to make it out on your picture, but it could be a possibility?

Yes definitely can see this tufnol cleat appears to be from Wing Aileron Cables supports positions. Good ID Peter. This made me realise, 1950’s and 60’s aircraft were using tufnol cleats on all sorts of Systems pipe runs too. Elect—-Fuel–Hyd–Pneumatic—pitot static,etc. Pic. 45 of Laurents latest finds shows a panel with 3 steel (2ba ? ) screws, you can see the rivets positions too, where side gussets would have been fitted. So this panel slotted into an edge of something, hard to tell if external surface was once black or camou painted. Straightened out,(needs annealing first most likely ) and rust cured, you have a very nice relic.
The 5X/112 connector is a “Brieze” or ” Breeze” plug. stock elect -avionics AGS part, (Terry P confirmed that) not sure what other 2 items are though. Sect 5X deals with Connectors-electrical. The total picture continues to build as we enter into year 2 of progress. Looking forward to the day his shovel hits something solid and large. 🙂

Bill T.

Oh dear !! :very_drunk:,
Started something now that all wheel freaks can get their teeth into, wait for the overwhelming deluge of correspondence to hit these pages. Hello Alan and Redhillwings. Right got you on that.. yes please, measurements would point closer to what it might be. Imperial preferably as I’m dyslexic with metric. Now !!! No easy way to answer the Shackleton size Alan except by going straight for the jugular, here we go:-

64″ Tyre Outer dia. and 22.50″x26″ also is (was) used on. Shackletons(as you said)—Hastings–Halifax–Lancaster–Lincoln–Bristol Freighter–York —Tudor—-and Armagnac ( Never heard of that one before though ???) Early Comets used 66″ Mains—Stirlings are in my lists, but have no outer Tyre Dia. mentioned ???
So that’s most of the known Brit period Aircraft. Also don’t know the Beverly mainwheel tyre sizes and others ( Like B-17 ) I’ve no info on that or other nations Aircraft Tyres, which makes me very sad,(which people have been known to say) so that’s no prob as have plenty of the brew that is named after a famous Merlin engined plane and yes, its going down very nicely thank you. LOL !!!

Bill T.

Thanks Bill, this part was picked up by a local from the site at the time of the crash and stashed away, as were many others, and it explains the great condition of the weaved cotton outer sheath. As far as I can see there’s no other reinforcing of the pipe which would be surprising for hydraulics, and even for 200 PSI pneumatics…?

Hi Hennie,
Yes, great souvenir/relic from that crash all those years ago. There will be a steel or rayon strengthening weave inside the inner rubber black pipe, as Dunlops did with their Aircraft tyres.

Best of luck in your quest.

Bill T.

Hi Hennie,
Nice to see your interest in the on-going Lancaster ED (H) thread and hello to you in here. The Flexible 1″ dia. Pipe with a swage on the end and AHO stamped on end of that has to be as Peter says “From the Lanc Brake system”. AHO is the Dunlops Part Number certainly for Pneumatic items and (I think ) for Hyd. too. However, over on the ED(H) thread we’ve established that Dunlop Pneumatic Braking is used on the Lancaster. The Pressure used in pipe would have been up to 200+- psi.

As at moment cannot help with ID’ing anything else for you, but keep looking and posting,as you never know what will turn up next.

Bill T.

Hooooooo !! Nice ID on the Tee Piping Peter and thanks for the Illustration of its position. The alloy lock plates too, !!I’d thought maybe engine or pump but don’t like to throw in too many guesses. (More wing bits again!! ) A French WW1 Grenade part. !!?* lol good ID and yes what else WW1 is around there to help the confusion. Certainly looks like more surprises to come.
So moving on to Laurents latest finds in pics, 51A and B. Because so much Wing stuff seems to be in this area, that spindle and Grease Nipple assy make me think this is off the main landing gear folding/retract mechanism and is a pivot spindle with what might well be the remains of a grease nipple on the right hand end. See the grease holes and grooves machined in,– usually a rigger would have to grease up landing gears on a primary servicing or OOp servicing and that would keep him busy for 1/2 a day. Only thing is I don’t know if WW2 Aircraft used these “Car” type Grease nipples or the “Top hat” type.

Bill T.

Interesting collection of bits again Bob Kat. Laurent is really going for it now. Post 452, Pic. no:-46 Is that a piece of rubber piping that is still attached to right end of T pipe ? If so, the rubber reminds me (Once again) of the Cockpit internal fresh air /Warm air system used in Sea-Hawk /Hunter. These rubber “Michelin Man” types of flexible pipes were fitted around inside of Windscreens and C/pit married into metal piping also laid around, the metal being copper,Brass/ Tungum mix. These were very low pressure pipes, ——-did the Lancaster have this sort of arrangement too ?

Bil T.

Nice to see another injection of pics. and parts to ID on this wet/cool /January day. Bravo to Laurent for braving the elements to locate these. Agree with Peter on the INSPECTOR word for that plate and looking at Pic. M6A,and pic. 40A, that brass roller bearing cage in what’s left of a steel surround I think is some Merlin Engine bearing.( Camshaft ??) These type of cages were certainly used in British Bearings used in many types of auto engines of this period,- of very fine quality too. (What is the Diameter of that Brass Cage ? Internal size. ) The 2 alloy tab washers could well be Merlin Engine or associated parts of. And that Large “Washer” on right of Brass Bearing Cage looks to me like a Merlin Valve spring lower washer seat.(Assuming it is the same one as in Pic. N40F -Lower -Middle)( These are all guesses based on and from my Brit Classic Motorcycling days and are put here to alert any experts on Merlins. Nice to see other Valve cotters appearing in searches, so Laurent is definitely “On ” to Merlin and associated gear. Below the Bearing cage (Pic M6A) is what looks like a hydraulic flex line(Or might be oxy) with heavy brass union at end. Small enough to be Gauge / Instrumentation related. Other pieces in first pic. –maybe structure. That alloy “Tube” is intrigueing. Wonder what that was off. Looks almost like a carb or air intake at lower end.

The aluminium narrow bore Piping in Pic. 40B is either Pneumatic Instrumentation or poss. Pitot /static related. In pic. N40F, the brass end cap at top right I suspect is from a Systems Ground Servicing or pressure charging point, possibly, oxygen,as that “Pip” on the top probably had a small hole in it to which a lanyard was attached,so preventing cap from becoming a loose article hazard.

The Big Nut at top left in same pic. must have been heavy critical structure use (Cos of wire locking) but how on earth did it wind itself off the bolt it was attached too ?? Unless scrap recovery personnel at time of incident did dismantle items of equipment to retain for study /use in the war effort (Axis ) The nut being tossed into Undergrowth )

And that’s about the best I can do this time around, hope this helps and best wishes to all for 2014.

Bill T.