Hi Dave,
C U R here, just got up to check. Back to sq one again. Bloody good try though. Its there somewhere. Cheers M8,

Bill T.

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An intact bomber was found at the bottom of the Gulf of Finland – “Very rare”

The wreck is located near the Baltic Sea gas pipeline in the western Gulf of Finland.
10.5.2017 at 18:38
Bomber frame on the seabed
The picture shows the bomber’s body. The engines have survived surprisingly well. Nor Stream 2 AG
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What is it all about?

The western Gulf of Finland has been found to be an exceptionally fit bomber wreck
The plane is estimated to have fallen in World War II
It lies approximately one mile from the Baltic Sea gas pipeline route
Vantaa Aviation Museum is estimated to have a very low level of survival of the fallen aircraft

A prominent bomber wreck has been found in the proximity of the Baltic Sea gas pipeline running off to Finland. The machine is located about a hundred meters in the western Gulf of Finland.

– It was completely intact. The machine is about 11 meters long and has a wingspan of 18 meters, says Minna Sundelin, the stakeholder group manager at Nord Stream 2.

The marine archeologist has evaluated the wreckage. This is the American Douglas DB-7 Boston / A-20 Havoc airplane with two engines. The allies, including the Soviet Union, used these machines in World War II. The wreck found last year is located about a mile from the Baltic Sea gas pipeline line.

– Far far away, it does not affect the route planning. We do not know if there are any ammo on the machine. We take into account the findings within 250 meters of the pipeline, says Sundelin.

Details of the skies have been submitted to the National Board of Antiquities. Finding it first told you

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Generally scattered and small pieces

Vantaa aviation museum is estimated to have been left with a chance to survive the fallen plane. When an aircraft dives from the sky to the ground or into the sea, it usually goes to pieces.

– The sinking of a sinking ship intact is more likely. It is very rare that the airplane will survive the first contact with the water and all the way from the bottom to the bottom, “notes the marine archaeologist, Matias Laitinen, aviation aviation museum.

Keeping a sinking ship intact is more likely.
Matias Laitinen

According to Laitinen, divers find some of the parts of the Soviet-era bomber in the waterways, but their registry data are incomplete.

– In addition, machine wrecks are scattered and small pieces, so they can be difficult to detect and understand as part of the machine.
Bomber frame on the seabed
The bomber lies at a depth of 100 meters. Nor Stream 2 AG
A merchant ship from the 18th century

The new gas pipeline route on Nord Stream is currently exploring the various environmental risks that may be caused by pipeline construction. The company has photographed the seabed on the tube route and also found shipwrecks and other marine archaeological finds.

One of them is a wooden merchant ship in the eastern Gulf of Finland, estimated to date from the 18th century.

– The ship is fragmented and its nearest ice is about 220 meters from the pipeline route. During the construction work, we take care of the wreck, “says Minna Sundelin, Nord Stream’s stakeholder manager.

In addition, the seabed has been found during the First and Second World War, thousands of mines, bombs and grenades. About fifty of them have to be cleansed from the pipe.

The biggest environmental burden comes from mines blasting. Wet troughs on the seabed will be cleared from the gas pipeline route during the line construction phase.

– Then animals must be expelled from the area. It’s done with a voice that drives animals like seals off, “says Simon Bonell, vice president of Nord Stream 2 AG.

The planned gas pipeline also crosses with 24 cables to be protected with concrete.
Bomber wreck
Nord Stream 2 AG
A total of 90,000 pipes are coated in Finland

Gas pipe components are coated in Germany and Finland. Work at the plating factory in Kotka started in March. Wasco Coatings Finland coats up to 90,000 tubes in Kotka’s Mussalo harbor. The work will continue until the end of next year.

All in all, pipes are needed around 200,000.

If the project authorization procedure proceeds as planned, pipeline construction will begin next spring. The pipeline will initially be built from Russia via the Gulf of Finland to Germany.

The construction of a gas pipeline from the German route begins in winter 2019.

Jeepers !!!
What a complete and utter pratt. How on earth no one died is amazing, this is not how people should enter and embrace aviation, you have to be honest, keep the ego under control and go the extra nine yards make to make sure all is correct if and when (often ) that is reqd. The more i think about what he did gives me the creeps. The sentence:- Utterley laughable !!!!

The moral:- don’t assume–check !!-always. This covers Flying and just as important:- Aircraft maintenance.

Signed out,

Bill T.

Hi Brataccas,
Aaaaahhhgggg !!!! Some you win , some you lose, but my thoughts entirely that this looked like an old lorry or car sub frame with the old type shocko’s. But thanks for getting out there and digging it up. John Green certainly nailed it. Brilliant conclusion guys.

Bill t.

Re-looked at your video of “The Big Lump” and around the “Knuckle” seems to be some sort of fibreglass shroud thats ripped,etc. (Unless I’m mistaken here ).

So whatever it is some time tapping at the concretion holding stones in place,using an Ice pick type hammer should shift C*** without any damage and still worth digging it out. Intriguing M8. Best of luck with it. I didn’t realize there is a bomb hoist in there, think I’ve got my U/C specs on—-lol !!!

Bill T.

Hi again James,
Glad to see you re-posting on your thread again. As those days slip back into history, they certainly are vivid for us who were there. If Keith would have been 66 yrs old now, I’m at 75 and of course all those folks in pics. you see will be following the same route. LOL !!! Glad I did finally locate the pic. of Keith–“Lighthouse” –Mark Summersgill–and the famous Paul Barker. ( Hi Paul.—– Marty Williams sends you salutations and asks when the next “Swaree” is—-lol !!! ) That “Tiger Moth” Model Plane in my last pic. was the actual Model going for Air test, wheras I really thought it was Keiths till I finally located this pic. I’m sure though, that his model “Flier” was still in one piece after,which means we would have packed it up and sent it home with his other gear. Posting any pics. of his model aircraft that you have, could sort that out. So please do James.

Myself and Martin Williams are members / Volunteers of TAC up here on the Wirral located at the Old Hangars at Hooton Park former RAFVR airfield that is now home to Vauxhall Motors. Look Up :- The Aeroplane Collection and Hooton Park Trust on face Book. (Though I don’t do Face Book myself. ) So it continues.

Please wish your mother well James and hope to C U Posting in here again soon. All the best to you,

Bill T.

Hi Alan,
Just to say thanks muchly for the 2 Ejection Seat Latch Assembly’s. Absolutely perfectos, Keep it all coming ,very interesting indeed.

Bill T.

Hi Paul,
WOW !!! Thank you for that, amazing. That plane still going (Or will be again) with a later engine and even the original one still working in another Flying Auster. That Auster was 2 years old when my father was flying it and it is now 72 years old. Really good to know its still plugging along. And it’s probably the one my brother and i had our very first flight in, in late 47 0r 48. That doesn’t appear in his logbook, as with 2 of us strapped in seat next to him with one lapstrap belt, he would have been frowned upon at least.
Thanks also for the Books Info, will follow those up. Finally, this is my dads PPL Licence or “Aviators Certificate”, quite a unique looking historic document, signed by no less than Lord Brabazon of Tara. Doubt if modern PPL licences have this quality or “Clout”. My father served as an Engine Fitter LAC in RAF and was sent out to the Battle of France in 39. Servicing Battles and Blenheims. He got back to Dunkirk and managed to get on board a Brit Destroyer. He very rarely talked about his experience there except to say that a lot of his aircrew Sgt’s pals were killed in those Aircraft. he died in 1981.

Bill T.