Newark C/pit Fest 09.

What a great W/end. 😀 Concur with all that is said so far, Hot weather , good Projects and Stalls and lots of midges in evening. The sight of all the Cockpiteers and helpers,etc, lined up for the Beef roast late on Sat. was a sight and wasn’t that a well organised event by Fly-Past and Museum, brilliant, !!–you folks and Ken Ellis deserve a round of applause, very tasty too. Our thanks for that. Thanks also to Ken for throwing some free beers at me 😀

I personally met quite a few Forum -ites, ( Post Fade—Dave Collins–Air Ministry–Mark G–XM-692— HMS Vulture, ) and many more I can’t now name ) We all had a good yap and caught up on respective events and projects, although I did miss the meet under Vulcan, ( LOL–Too busy wading through Aero-Jumble )

The evening sit down and consuming of beer and Plane talk till about half-Past Midnight was a pure tonic, and our Nth.West Aviation Group were well away in tent City along with others drawn into the circle.—— This is the way to conduct C/pits discussions.

On Sunday, we were well impressed with the ATC Blue Hunter C/pit input by Sean and 2 very well turned out ATC members and were more than pleased that they won an award. The ATC Sqdns. that I know of are sadly lacking in this direction, so Sean has made a geat start here. Glad to say that we at Nth.West will help them with projects. Full Marks to Fly-Past for picking up on this by putting up the Award.

Finally, here’s a few Pics for folks that couldn’t make it. ( Lack of people is because prize giving was on )

Bill T.

switches.

Bumping this old thread as I’d like to pick people’s brains again please!

Can anyone give any help please with the type of switch in the top right of this photo? It would appear to be about an inch square in the panel, with a short black lever. The switch controlled the water brake on Bluebird, up for up, down for down, and a central resting position as seen here. It may not even be aeronautical- it could be from a car for all we know- but, anyone?

Also, generally, do individual gauges have their own manuals?

The rebuild of Bluebird is going very, very well indeed by the way!

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Hi Lancman,
These what you are looking for ?

Yours for free ,if you want them.

Bill T.

Sea- Hawks Nth. West.

Airspeed Horsa mkII wing and fuselage sections + skinning, minor fittings. (AS Horsa)
Armstrong Whitworth Whitley – rebuild (Whitley_project)
Auster AOP.5 TJ398 (geordie air)
Auster J1/N Autocrat G-AJPZ frame (Rlangham)
Auster AOP.9 XK421 frame (XM692.)
Avro Anson Mk.II (ex-Canada) cockpit (RossMcNeill)
Avro Anson C XIX front fuselage VP519 (Air Ministry and pal)
Avro Anson C.21 anon’ cockpit (RossMcNeill)
Avro Anson GR.1 EG426 – Static Project (Mark P)
Avro Lincoln B.2 RF342 – Static Project (Mark P)
Avro Shackleton AEW.2 WL756 nose/cockpit (Camlobe)
BAC Lightning 53-671/ZF579 (mjr)
BAC 1-11 G-AZMF (Fuselage) (GIA) (Lindy’s Lad)
Be2c Replica -airworthy restoration (The Blue Max & Low n Slow)
Beechcraft D.18s G-BKRN -airworthy restoration (philipturland and Texantomcat)
Blackburn Buccaneer S.2B XX889 (Buccsociety)
Boeing B-17 Cockpit section-reproduction (B-17man)
Boeing B-17 Radio room-reproduction (B-17man)
Commonwealth CA-6 Wackett Trainer A3-167 Flying Project -(Mark P)
Commonwealth CA-6 Wackett Trainer A3-85 Flying Project (Mark P)
Commonwealth CA-6 Wackett Trainer A3-156 Static Project (Mark P)
Commonwealth CA-27 Sabre, A94-983 (Pete.PS)
Consolidated B-24 Cockpit section-reproduction (B-17man)
de Havilland Chipmunk ‘pax WP927 (12jaguar)
de Havilland Chipmunk ‘pax WZ869 (Ritch & Max)
de Havilland Chipmunk ‘pax anon’ (XM692.)
de Havilland Chipmunk ‘pax WG419 (Texantomcat & philipturland)
de Havilland Hornet F.MK.1 nose/cockpit – repro’ (dcollins103)
de Havilland Mosquito B.IV ‘DZ313′ fuselage – repro’ (G Adlam)
de Havilland Vampire FB.5 VZ193 pod (dcollins103)
de Havilland Vampire T.11 XD599 pod (philipturland and Texantomcat)
de Havilland Vampire T.11 XE985 pod (MarkG)
de Havilland Vampire T.11 XH328 pod (Bruce)
de Havilland Vampire T.11 WZ584 (Bruce)
de Havilland Vampire T.11 WZ581 pod (alvampman)
de Havilland Vampire T.35 A79-660 pod (Battle)
de Havilland Vampire T.55 221 pod (alvampman)
de Havilland Sea Venom FAW.22 XG692 pod (XG692)
Douglas C-47A Skytrain / Dakota 111 FL517 nose/cockpit (c-47 Skytrain)
Douglas C-47B Dakota 111 TS436 of 1943/Starboard wing sparing (AS Horsa)
English Electric Canberra B.2 WD954 nose/cockpit (Spitfireman)
English Electric Canberra B.6/MOD WJ775 nose/cockpit (Pure Lightning)
English Electric Canberra PR.7 WH773 (BexWH773)
English Electric Canberra PR.9 XH174 nose/cockpit (newstart)
English Electric Canberra PR.9 XH175 nose/cockpit (RossMcNeill)
English Electric Canberra T.4 WT486 nose/cockpit (sniperUK/2241sq ATC)
English Electric Canberra TT.18 WH887 nose/cockpit (Pure Lightning)
English Electric Lightning F.1 XM144 nose/cockpit (XM172)
English Electric Lightning F.1A XM172 full airframe (XM172)
English Electric Lightning F.2 XN769 nose/cockpit (rmc)
English Electric Lightning F.3 XP706 (Scott C)
English Electric Lightning T.5 XS420 full airframe (XM172)
English Electric Lightning T.5 XS458 full airframe (rmc)
English Electric Lightning F.6 XS897 full airframe (XM172)
English Electric Lightning F6 XS922 nose/cockpit (XM172)
Enstrom 280C Shark G-BXEE full airframe (now with main rotors!) (iws)
Fairey Firefly AS.6 WB440 cockpit+fuselage (HMS Vulture)
Fokker G.1 cockpit repro (Sonderman)
Folland Gnat T.185 ‘XM692’ cockpit (XM692.)
Fouga Magister CM.170 serial # 63 cockpit (Fouga23)
Gloster Meteor T.7 WL405 (WL405)
Gloster Meteor NF.14 WS807 (Buccaneer Society/Jet Age Museum)
Handley Page Halifax B Mk III cockpit reproduction (Cees Broere)
Handley Page Jetstream 200 G-BBYM (GIA) (Lindy’s Lad)
Hawker Harrier T.4 anon’ nose/cockpit (XM172)
Hawker Harrier GR.3 XV806 nose/cockpit (XM692.)
Hawker Hurricane P3554 ‘Jessamy’ (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F.1 WT648 nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F.2 WN890 nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F.4 ‘XF940’ nose/cockpit (XF940)
Hawker Hunter F.5 WN957 nose/cockpit (XG692)
Hawker (Dutch) Hunter F.6 N-202 extreme nose (XG692)
Hawker Hunter F.6 XG290 nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter T.7 XL591 (mjr)
Hawker Hunter FGA.9 XE584 cockpit (XE584)
Hawker Hunter GA.11 WT711 (XM172)
Hawker Hunter FGA.78 QA.12 nose/cockpit (MarkG)
Hawker Sea Hawk F.1 WF145 nose/cockpit (HMS Vulture)
Hawker Sea Hawk F.4 ????? cockpit (XE584)
Hawker Sea Hawk FGA.6 WV838 nose/cockpit (Jon H)
Hawker Sea-Hawk FGA.6 WV-903 Gutted A/C ( WV-903 )
Hawker Sea-Hawk FGA.6 XE-339 as 903 minus C/pit Section. (WV-903 )
Hunting Jet Provost T.3 XM355 (GIA) (Lindy’s Lad)
Hunting Jet Provost T.3 XM419 (GIA) (Lindy’s Lad)
Hunting Jet Provost T.3 XN549 nose/cockpit (avroxix)
Hunting Jet Provost T.5(P) XS231 nose/cockpit (XM692.)
Miles M-65 Mk 3A Gemini G-AKEK (galdri)
Miles Messenger M.2a G-AKIN -airworthy (texantomcat)
North American AT-6-D-1-NT Texan airworthy restoration G-TOMC (Texantomcat and philipturland)
North American P-51D cockpit (Geedee)
North American P-51D (Rocketeer)
Percival Prospector G-ARDG forward fuselage (RAF Millom)
Piper Aztec A N79LW (GIA) (Lindy’s Lad)
Piper PA-22 Colt – airworthy. (Moggy)
Piper PA-38-112 G-OLFC cockpit (Scott Marlee)
Sepecat Jaguar GR.1 XX977 nose/cockpit (Paul Cunningham)
Slingsby Grasshopper TX/1 WZ820 -airworthy (Texantomcat & philipturland)
Supermarine Seafire Cockpit Project (Rocketeer)
Supermarine Spitfire nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VcTrop cockpit section (Qldspitty)
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VcTrop Reproduction (Qldspitty)
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VIII taxiing replica with a meteor engine (G Adlam)Supermarine Spitfire IX (Stuart Gowans)
Supermarine Spitfire IX FSM BAPC.268 (Spitfireman)
Westland Scout AH.1 XP853 (WestlandScout)
Westland Wasp HAS.1 XT439 (alvampman)

Thats mine added. 😀

Bill T.

Nice one Loose head

Yep, cockpit of XD875 is with the Highland Aviation Museum at Inverness Airport

Oh great !! Nice one Loose head. Must get up there sometime. 46 yrs. since last I stepped up to a Valiant.

Very pleased to finally find out my seat pictured here is a Valiant Mk. 3 Pilots. The identification plate had been prised off at some previous time.

Have now got most of parts to re-Build it, except the folding armrests.

Looking forward to that.

Bill T.

Amazing–never understood all till now.

Hi Folks,
Just like to add some more to this long and very interesting thread.

I have mentioned My escapades before with 4 JSTU ( Blue Steel ) ( Hi Postfade, you still sending in stunning pics,–Good on yer. ) And my passing through Changi in Transit in Oct. 62 and back again in 65, took in all that was going on and never really understood what was happening till now , would you believe.:D

Down the years since then , little things still stick about that era and that time. In 1961,or early 62, Valiant Photo Aircraft from 543 Sqdn, RAF Wyton visited An RAAF Station in Queensland, Aussie, ( Name now escapes me-well it was many yrs. ago ), for a month long detachment, It went off well and all returned to Wyton OK. I was a lowly J/T working in the Tyre Bay at that time, but never found out the reasons for their visit, as everything was top secret.

So some 47 yrs + on, and looking in here, I now realize it was the Indonesian Confrontatian that must have been the prime reason for 543’s visit.

Also, in 1966, I was a Cpl over at F.C.M.P.C. RAF Valley, as part of the support network there set-up for visiting Fighter Sqdns. of the RAF to carry out there bi- annual, Missile firing training out over the Sea- in conjuction with RAE Llanbedr.

We had a visit from the last Javelin Squadron still operating and they flew in from Cyprus, during the summer, still in their service KD shorts,etc, did their weeks flying , left and were disbanded shortly after.
( I cannot now recall that Sqdns. Number either–Duh !!! )

The pilots were all older, grizzled guys and I now wonder If any of those Aircraft and Aircrew were ones that operated out of Seletar in early 1960’s with 60 and 64 Sqdn’s.

We did have an ex-Seletar Javelins Groundcrew man working with us at that time, and he loved getting to grips with the Javelins again. He fitted the role of , Sqdn. ” Liney” very well, and was all you would expect of a beer drinking, smoking card playing, P**** taking Scotsman, who shall remain nameless.–:D A typical SAC, backbone of these Sqdns. the likes of which I never come across now. ( But he knew his Javelins )

I do then wonder if any of those Seletar Javelins now still exist. So I’ll turn that over to you guys.

Whilst at Edinburgh Field, Oct. 62 to April 65, I used to see Quite a Few RAAF Sabres come and go to and from the RAAF Heavy Maintenance Hanger there, this was the first Hanger on your right as you came in through ( Old ) Airfield Main Gate. They did look nice pieces of kit these ones I saw must have been the ones you folks are talking about now. I did even get to sit in one once.

As a Flight Simmmer nowadays, via Micro-Soft CFS3, ( On-Line mostly ) I can actually get into a South African Sabre in an SOH add on called ” Korean Skies”and the one Plane that is a delight to fly is —-The Sabre. Yes !– The traditional long take off run is still apparent to get airborne and you can feel the lightness of controls and how quickly she gets up to speed. Marvellous.

But Landing these aircraft requires a fantastically long Run, even with Airbrakes full out and Full Flaps, down the Sabre consumes all of the runaway length to land and I still run onto grass at end, 😀 Not sure if this is me or were the Sabres actually like this to fly, The Guys who put “Korean Skies” together were meticulous in setting their Aircraft performances and handling qualities to within 10% of original, but is there any one out there who can confirm or deny these Flight Sim. Sabre qualites. Would love to know.:) And what a performance trying to shoot other Aircraft down, the closing speeds make for a 100% concentration required.

I salute you guys who flew them, In some small way, I feel privileged to be able to “Dabble” in this world of 47–60 yrs. ago again.

My apologies to moderators if I’ve strayed off Thread a bit, but it’s nice to link up with those times again, keep this thread going guys, there has to be a fund of stories and pics. still out there.

Bill T.

ps:– And RPM-FF-TG, I completely understand where you are coming from in personal Observations.

There were some right B****** s around, but because of the Rank business, you could not hit back so to speak, which then resulted in ” Civil Disobedience” as only means of getting some say. Or Getting ” P*******D when ever. Don’t even think about going down road of complaints procedure, Complete waste of time.

Folks who weren’t in RAF or Forces at those times will find it difficult to understand and wonder why we can be grumpy now and out spoken, so humour us guys. We all stuck at job in hand though and got it done. Being a SNCO was a lot of unnecessary stress, as we had to prove our efficiency at all times through the monitoring system.

Anthony Wedgewood Benn Esq.

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Hi RP.
A good post. Aaaagghhh!!!!, for all the same reasons as you, my Political leanings are Slanted too. Mr. Wedgie Benn has interesting stories to tell of his WW2 RAF Pilot Training in Canada or Rhodesia ???, but after that he appeared to be a Chameleon in a Wolf’s/sheeps Coat for the rest of his political career.

I don’t think you will get a straight answer to anything you put to him about our Aircraft Industry demise. He won’t wish to drag skeletons out of the closet. But ask him anyway and post the results back here would you, at least the older members here will be interested, as I’m sure me and you aren’t the only ones still narked about what happened in 1960’s.

( Oh yes !!, for the younger folk reading this, It’s called Grumpy old men time—;):D ).

You could ask Tony Benn:-

” Why do we still, have to make war with countries when we now do not have the industrial resources available to us, we had back in 1950’s and would he agree that the government is in total, Titanic proportions denial about our Armed Forces Lack of Equipment and logistical Support.” :diablo:

It’s difficult to ask a question purely on Aviation, but you can see that is in there RP. Hope this fits your ( Aviation ) theme. I’m sure we all will still be –:confused: by his answer, but interested.——LOL.

Thanks RP, best of luck.

Bill T