No, it left Lambeth a couple of years ago. It has now been stripped out for refurbishment at Duxford

Thanks for letting me know….. I guess that means she’ll languish there for a good while…

Back to the Shacks

And the Stirling…….
Cees

Very true Cees….. Wellington, Hampden, Whitley……. The list goes on… Still those of us on this forum understand the valuable contribution of the “other” types and their flyers.. Its just a shame the modern media doesn’t understand this. Now where is that lottery win when I need it!

Back to the thread…. Anything is possible regarding the bomb doors, except that YAM’s Friday doesn’t have any. If they had loads of dosh they could be recreated with an alternative operating mechanism. I guess that it is theoretically possible also for the engines to be plumbed in and run also. I doubt if she could taxi as I am not sure how the undercart (being replica units) could stand up to it……. But just imagine the night shoot…. Four Halibag Hercs turning, HJ711 with two Merlins, the Dakotas Cyclones… And even Lindy could give us some nice Conway jet noises.

This just appeared on my Facebook 😎

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If only we has such recreations of the Stirling, Whitley and Wellington.

Excellent photo and such a true statement. Marvelous though the Lanc is, future generations need to know that there were others….. BTW. My only criticism of the re-en actors is their age…. It would be even more sobering if the crew was a group of men just out of their teens.

What is your Facebook name, I’ll go and like it straight away!!! (Edit: Found your facebook, liked and shared with my other Haliphile friends).

I looked up the film on imdb.com to see if it was worth sitting through to the end as I was finding it a tadge cheesey. (The bit I noticed was that the CGI P51’s looked wrong to me – painted silver rather than bare metal).

The goofs reported show that quite a lot of folk like me are geeky and spot even the small factual details. (My wife doesn’t like going to the pictures with me as I always pick faults).

Here are some of the reported inaccuracies:

During the initial bombing run to Berlin, one of the bomber pilots says that engine number three is losing pressure, but when the shot goes to the plane’s exterior, engine number one has stopped operating.

National insignia on the P-40s in the initial strafing sequence changes from early war (white star on blue circle) to late war (white bars added to sides of blue circle) as the planes land.

The Germans are often seen utilizing 20mm antiaircraft guns against the Tuskeegee airmen at low altitude, with near misses resulting in characteristic puffs of dark smoke near the planes. These puffs of smoke in reality only originated from timed fuses that were only used in heavy antiaircraft artillery, such as the 88mm. A 20mm shell would have simply whizzed by the plane and exploded upon contact with a hard surface, rather than exploding as it came near.

Whenever P-51 Mustangs are shown in flight, they are accompanied by their trademark gun port whistle, even while in level flight. In actuality, the whistle only occurs during high G turns and climbs, when the angle of attack on the gun ports is sufficient to create the sound. Some attribute this noise to the supercharger on the Rolls engine, however in fact it is created by the gun ports, and as such demilitarized P-51s with their gun ports removed do not make the sound.

The Red Tails are shown to transition directly from the P-40 to the P-51D in the movie. In reality they first transitioned to the P-39, then the P-47, the P-51B/C, and lastly the P-51D.

When the Tuskegee Airmen perform their first mission in P-51 Mustangs, several of the planes are heard starting with the trademark inertia starter squeal of a radial piston engine. However, the P-51 always used a water cooled V12 engine (both early Allison and later Rolls) which have a conventional starter and turn over with a noise similar to any modern piston aircraft engine.

Very true…. Re-creation is the best term.

She is loved by the veterans and having stood by her listening to their stories I can vouch that the years fall away. She is just missing the live smells of a live machine with running engines.

B.T.W Last year one of our association members asked if we could take some veterans inside to do some filming at their reunion. They said no because of Health & Safety…. Nobody mentioned Health and safety 70 years ago when they were over Berlin.

What about a Victor

After all it took 11 of them to get two Vulcans to the Falklands yet no body seems to remember them!!!