Fascinating reading.

I was never much in favour of “Care in the Community” but in the case of SSS-666, I can now see it really does work.

Regards,

kev35

Like I said, attacking a person, instead of his point of view, is a sign of inability to carry on a
discussion, or even…….

Anything else you can contribute to this “psychopath’s” thread?

Okay…what would it take to meet your mind’s exacting burden of proof?
or…How can NASA disprove a negative?

BTW: since you aren’t a Yank…what are you?
Since you seem to freely dislike the US, it’s a fair question….since you claim to be a US Navy veteran. What did you do in the Navy? Pilot?
Intelligence? Communications? Detached to NSA?
Fry cook?

PS…since you alone seem to have the inside knowledge of not only the moon landing the 9/11 attack but also TWA Flt 800…please tell us why was the USN firing real missiles at drones near a very busy airway? There are test ranges for that kind of work…away from populated areas.

Also, Why hasn’t the FAA gone public…during the Clinton administration I can’t see the White House providing much top cover for the Pentagon.
Why didn’t TWA go public? With the money they could have gotten out of a lawsuit agianst the government, they’s still be around…and flying gold plated Concordes.
PS Mk II: Have you talked with Charlie Sheen about 9/11 yet? :rolleyes:

As for the Yank thingy, I am not a Redneck either ^_^

I don’t “freely” dislike the US. Like 6 Billion other people on this planet (yes, there are people
living on Earth, other than the Americans) I don’t like the American foreign policy of world
domination. Which has so far cost, without exaggeration, millions of innocent lives or a
lifetime of misery for even more. BUT, that is another story.

That you know I served in the US Navy, is more than enough. Fry cook sounds good. Remember,
those guys are serving their country, just like the Pilots or the NIS. There is pride in whatever
you do.

The Air France Crew, along with 154 others, was right on, with his description of a far away
bright flare-looking “object,” that changed course and approached the 747 almost horizontally. I
am sure the readers here are very familiar with Navy’s Cooperative Engagement Capability
(CEC) system. To make a long story short, since this is the wrong thread, the unique
circumstances were:
1- The Liner was too low for its TIF, (due to another aircraft overhead) and it should have been
at almost 30,000 feet.
2- Malfunction of a new sub-surface fired missile with obvious kinks (diverting path almost
horizontally)
3- Aircraft Carrier (CVN-71) participating in the CEC, along with a flotilla of support ships
including 3 subs . With one of them being Wyoming, whose Cap and Exec were soon put behind
a desk in some corner, for life.
Last and definitely least, the FireBee lived a bit longer than it was meant to.

Remember, there is no such thing as “unsolved,” when the magnitude of the incident is so large.
Such as an Airliner going down, or a Head of State getting his head blown off.

Now, back to the “Moon landings”.

This has become quite tedious. I like a bit of knockabout fun as much as anyone but I think the time has come to ask SSS a single question.

But first, some background.

Zealots wishing to convert the world to their viewpoint always make the same three mistakes.

1) The ease of ‘cut and paste’ means that their postings are always too long as they cram every little piece of information they have hoovered from the less balanced corners of the internet in a bid to covert people to the True Way by sheer weight of words. It doesn’t work, most of us just scan through.

2) When proved wrong they will never admit it. I, from my own knowledge was able to identify that the variance between broadcast TV and a Hasselblad still image was only to be expected. SSS ‘doesn’t buy it’. Denying inconvenient facts doesn’t strengthen anybody’s persuasiveness

3) Blinded by the theories of others, they bang away without thinking about any possible explanation other than the one they are trying to sell.

I was intrigued by this thread, the very silliness of the proposition makes it fun to think about as an intellectual exercise.

The sheer impossibility of having kept such a hoax totally secret has already been mentioned.

Most of the ‘proofs’ I’ve bothered to read have been explained quite simply elsewhere too. From my own point, when I know that one of the proofs is bollox, I suspect that most of the others will be.

So SSS let me offer you an explanation and ask you a single question. The others can judge your case by how you answer the question.

Refer to the picture I posted earlier. Virtually all your case hinges on the fact that faked images, proven by some detail in them, show that the moon mission didn’t happen.

The image I posted was a published picture purporting to show the moment that US troops captured the island of Iwo Jima from the Japanese in WW2. It was widely published as such. It was a fake. (It looks like the same wire stiffening has been used to make the flag ‘fly’)

For whatever reason It was mocked up, presumably the photgrapher didn’t get that emotive shot on the day, so it was reconstructed later.

QUESTION: Does this mean that the island of Iwo Jima is still held by divisions of 80 year-old Japanese troops?

The picture is a fake. Therefore the event didn’t happen. That is the full import of your miles and miles of cut and paste.

The corollary must be that Iwo Jima didn’t happen either.

Moggy

Gee Weez Moggy, remind me not to send you on any diplomatic missions. As any other
discussions, the aim is not, and should not be, to convert anyone. It is a discussion.

Your question is a damn good one. And, aside from the fact that you said you didn’t know
anything about the pic, your point is true. Just because the photo was a fake, it does not mean
Iwo Jima did not happen.

I think I have mentioned a few times that “at the least the photos and videos seem to be faked”.
So there. Furthermore, Iwo Jima was “proven true” regardless of the fake pic. So, there were
“other” evidence to prove it right. The Moon story is a different matter.

A simple aiming of a large telescope would end the matter in a flash. But, it would also end
some poor Astronomer’s career too.

Just enjoy the ride.

It was. I read the same thing clear back in the 70’s.

Wow, and yet they managed to take photos of things in the process of being blown up by nukes. How do you suppose they managed that? :rolleyes:

Depends on the structure of the particles you’re trying to make an impression in. Suck all the moisture and air out of talc and you’ll still be able to make an impression. Sand doesn’t work because the particles are more rounded.

Remember, if you keep rolling your eyes, they may get stuck in the position ^_^ And, I have no
idea what you are talking about, as far as Nuclear explosion is concerned.

Generally I don’t like to go into details, frivolously, but…….. We can not talk about sand when
talking about the Moon. As “we” know, sand is the grinded sea shells, and, there are none up
there.

So, we are left with rock fragments and powder, primarily from a few Billion years of
bombardment from the space (the inconvenience of not having an atmosphere like Earth).

One thing is for certain, there are absolutely no moisture in the material we are talking about.
So, we are in fact talking about rough dirt. You can not compare it to talc as it is waaay too fine.
To make a long story short, you just can not create such an imprint in the material, without
moisture and air.

Now, put these aside and move on to another anomaly. Take a stroll down the link I attached
before. Until you get to the part which shows the same “mountain” showing up in 2 different
photos supposedly a few miles away. As well, the same rock formation with the same scenario.

Now, stroll back up and watch the video of the flag and the astro-not getting up, using magic.
Well, actually the wire which flashes a couple of time, reflecting the background lights. I really
think if one looks at that clip, objectively, he will begin to doubt the authenticity of the claim.

I noticed a thing that no one else has so far. When the Apollo-16 Astro-not defies the laws of
physics, even for the moon with little gravity, and gets up; a piece of something falls off his suit.
Don’t know what it is, but, it sure comes down at a bout 9.6 metres per second. A bit too fast for
the Moon don’t you think?

I also think the guy putting up the site, sensationalises things a bit. Not everything he says is
logical, or fake. The flag waves and gets knocked about a lot, as if there is a very high wind
blowing. But, in fact the Astro-not is twisting the pole. However, after he lets go to pose for the
photo op, the flag keeps waving.

There are just so darn much stuff that don’t add up.

I should imagine that the Secret Masters what live in tunnels under the Himalaya have had it away…… or maybe shape-shifting lizards.

There is ample evidence (it’s on the Internet, so it must be true) that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster and that global warming arises from a lack of pirates.

What do you have to say to that? Huh?

In lieu of your compelling evidence, and logic, I am speechless. How can I compete
with that level of knowledge,……………..Okay, you win.

Leave the Little Green Men out of the moon business. At the moment they are reverse engeneering the rover u send to Mars and soon gona send it back for the same purpose.kekekekek.

I think the LGMs have already mastered the Rover technology. Where do you think the one “left behind” on the Moon disappeared to? Huh?

I have absolutely no idea where that image was taken. That is the point.

Moggy

Doh, forgive my ignorance. What IS the point.

Maybe you are hinting at the prevalent, and utterly false, belief that it was the US that won
WWII, and not the Europeans and Russians, with millions upon millions dead and day after day
of aerial bombardments. After all, all “we” read in “our” history books, along with nice “photos”
of “our” troops erecting a flag or something somewhere. BUT, that is another story.

I think if you really think about it, you are proving MY point. You are implying one should not
take a photo or claim at face value, and question its authenticity. Great, I see you have come
to the “good” side ^_^ and are proving my point.

Please, get started… It could be interesting.

I also note you haven’t responded yet to the facts I gave you re. leaving footsteps in the sand…

I am not sure what your question is. You confirm that one can not leave a foot print in the sand,
or dust as on the Moon. Then you ask if one can? SO, be more specific.

The “joke” about the dry lake bed was “Groom Lake”. I guess that one went over someone’s
head ^_^