Hi
Its on the community channel on cable now and is the most moving program I have ever seen. I have seen it before but am watching again. I defy anyone not to watch trough tears. Its about Johnny kenedy and shows his planning of his funeral and attaining a dream of flying. Its one of those programs that even if its not that pleasant at times you feel a duty to watch.Back to see the end
http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/B/boy_whose_skin_fell_off/index.html
Cheers
phil
You are right, it is sad and uplifting at the same time. It makes you think about mortality and
life. It makes you wish the sufferings of the human beings would end and we all could live a
better and peaceful life, while we are on this planet.
Furthermore, I sure hope the pic in your avatar is not of yourself. If so, you have my sympathy ^_^
Hi
Its on the community channel on cable now and is the most moving program I have ever seen. I have seen it before but am watching again. I defy anyone not to watch trough tears. Its about Johnny kenedy and shows his planning of his funeral and attaining a dream of flying. Its one of those programs that even if its not that pleasant at times you feel a duty to watch.Back to see the end
http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/B/boy_whose_skin_fell_off/index.html
Cheers
phil
You are right, it is sad and uplifting at the same time. It makes you think about mortality and
life. It makes you wish the sufferings of the human beings would end and we all could live a
better and peaceful life, while we are on this planet.
Furthermore, I sure hope the pic in your avatar is not of yourself. If so, you have my sympathy ^_^
SSS-666, can you please tell us what the biggest hoax of the century is? Dying to know, only thing I can think of is that you’ve been persuaded by David Irving’s books
All I say at this time is I just love the Freedom of Speech available, to all, in some “democratic” western countries.
The biggest Hoax of the century has another time. It will take the wind off the sail of this discussion.
So, I guess we have to wait. Although, it shouldn’t be hard to guess. Just think about the few people that are ruling the earth by proxy.
SSS-666, can you please tell us what the biggest hoax of the century is? Dying to know, only thing I can think of is that you’ve been persuaded by David Irving’s books
All I say at this time is I just love the Freedom of Speech available, to all, in some “democratic” western countries.
The biggest Hoax of the century has another time. It will take the wind off the sail of this discussion.
So, I guess we have to wait. Although, it shouldn’t be hard to guess. Just think about the few people that are ruling the earth by proxy.
Well we may have to wait a bit for photos to come through. The satellite thing is supposed to make numerous passes, each time in a lower orbit to get a higher resolution. So the answer may take a little bit to “appear”.
What’ll I do if they don’t produce photos that have a resolution that’s good enough to distinguish the objects? Maybe I’ll make this a full time occupation and write a book on why the major current conspicacy theories are complete nonsense :diablo: I can start with the flat earth idiots, that one is too easy. Then I can move into the moon landings, 9/11…
Yeah, we sure have to wait a long time for something that should have been resolved 30 years ago.
AND
Don’t you think you should wait until people, like me, are actually proven wrong, before boasting about “how right you were” and flat earth idiots, etc….. A bit of jumping the gun, don’t you think.
Just imagine, I know it will be hard to, that YOU are proven wrong. It will be tough to wipe all those eggs off your face ^_^
Well we may have to wait a bit for photos to come through. The satellite thing is supposed to make numerous passes, each time in a lower orbit to get a higher resolution. So the answer may take a little bit to “appear”.
What’ll I do if they don’t produce photos that have a resolution that’s good enough to distinguish the objects? Maybe I’ll make this a full time occupation and write a book on why the major current conspicacy theories are complete nonsense :diablo: I can start with the flat earth idiots, that one is too easy. Then I can move into the moon landings, 9/11…
Yeah, we sure have to wait a long time for something that should have been resolved 30 years ago.
AND
Don’t you think you should wait until people, like me, are actually proven wrong, before boasting about “how right you were” and flat earth idiots, etc….. A bit of jumping the gun, don’t you think.
Just imagine, I know it will be hard to, that YOU are proven wrong. It will be tough to wipe all those eggs off your face ^_^
1) How could such a massive, wide-ranging and expensive conspiracy be kept secret for so long? But wait… the hour is late. Let us call a pause, and continue this most interesting discussion on the morrow. Or later today, in fact.
All I will tell you about the point you make above is that it is not as hard as you think. The Hoax
will not be known to everybody who is in the Control room, because of the nature of their duties.
Only a few would know.
I’ll tell you this once, and keep to the subject at hand. The flight 93 was brought down by an F-15
to save the White House, AND, I was in the US Navy when TWA Flight 800 was hit by “the
missile” which changed target mid air, from the Drone with less heat signature, to the Airliner
with massive ones.
1) How could such a massive, wide-ranging and expensive conspiracy be kept secret for so long? But wait… the hour is late. Let us call a pause, and continue this most interesting discussion on the morrow. Or later today, in fact.
All I will tell you about the point you make above is that it is not as hard as you think. The Hoax
will not be known to everybody who is in the Control room, because of the nature of their duties.
Only a few would know.
I’ll tell you this once, and keep to the subject at hand. The flight 93 was brought down by an F-15
to save the White House, AND, I was in the US Navy when TWA Flight 800 was hit by “the
missile” which changed target mid air, from the Drone with less heat signature, to the Airliner
with massive ones.
What will your argument be if photos are released showing the lunar landing sites?
Damn SOC, are you monitoring me as I am typing or what? A detailed 30 second response???? Damn!!!!
As for the point above, I will admit I was wrong IF the photos show the “stuff left behind”. Not the “landing Sites”.
What will YOUR argument be if the photos are crappy like the rest, and the Hoax remain “unclear”???
What will your argument be if photos are released showing the lunar landing sites?
Damn SOC, are you monitoring me as I am typing or what? A detailed 30 second response???? Damn!!!!
As for the point above, I will admit I was wrong IF the photos show the “stuff left behind”. Not the “landing Sites”.
What will YOUR argument be if the photos are crappy like the rest, and the Hoax remain “unclear”???
Well SOC, I am glad that someone finally started to talk about tangibles. Although, have heard it
all before and been there and done that ^_^
But, like I said you did what others, for whatever reason, didn’t do. Lets begin with the first
photo of Neil the Astro-not going down the steps: All I can say about this pic is to compare it to
the still photos and wonder how was is that a still photo is absolutely perfect yet the film is
absolute sh*t.
Did you know that the still pic of Armstrong (your second pic) is the ONLY photo of the
supposed 1st man on the MOON? Now, THAT is weird in itself. Also why is it that the flag is
fluttering “on the Moon”? And why is the shade side of the Lander so damn bright, and you just
happen to see the US flag perfectly “in the shade”. Well, I’ll tell you why. The professional
photographer was using Reflectors, like in studios, and even managed to light up the back side of
that post in front of the “fluttering” flag.
These have been discussed on the hundreds of web sites already.
In one of the links in the UK link titled “In the shadow,” there is a pic of an Astro-not coming
down the Lander. The guy talks about light reflection and stuff. There is just 7% reflection on
the Moon yet the pic is damn good. And, everything “patriotic” like the flag or the word “United
States” is always bright and visible.
Now, in this pic I just have a point to make which no one else has. If in fact the reflection has lit
up the “dark side” then why is there shade where the gold foil has kinks? Wouldn’t the
“reflection” be uniform?
As well, this pic is discussed in the site I attached before, and a close up of the right boot shows
a “single source” light reflection.
I just wanted to take one or two points from the links SOC have shown. The argument in those
links are rather stupid. I have seen this kind of “proof” before, and it works on a certain kind of
people, and only on a certain kind of people. The “proof” is stupid and illogical. It really dos not
make sense, IF it is looked at objectively. Which I don’t think is going to happen. In fact, that
UK site puts forth one of the most stupid arguments ever.
As for the Hubble and all that Jazz, there are hundreds of Earth-based telescopes, and the
“landing” sites are very accessible (visually) from Earth. Yet not even one single pic of the stuff
supposedly left behind.
Hell, I went to Google Moon, and those comedians turn the Moon into Swiss Cheese when you try to focus on the landing sites. Doesn’t anyone with common sense wonder why is it we can get within enough distance to these supposed landing sites “not” to any details, then suddenly “Swiss Cheese”??????
I guess they were told by the government to keep the “second” biggest hoax of century under wraps or else.
Well SOC, I am glad that someone finally started to talk about tangibles. Although, have heard it
all before and been there and done that ^_^
But, like I said you did what others, for whatever reason, didn’t do. Lets begin with the first
photo of Neil the Astro-not going down the steps: All I can say about this pic is to compare it to
the still photos and wonder how was is that a still photo is absolutely perfect yet the film is
absolute sh*t.
Did you know that the still pic of Armstrong (your second pic) is the ONLY photo of the
supposed 1st man on the MOON? Now, THAT is weird in itself. Also why is it that the flag is
fluttering “on the Moon”? And why is the shade side of the Lander so damn bright, and you just
happen to see the US flag perfectly “in the shade”. Well, I’ll tell you why. The professional
photographer was using Reflectors, like in studios, and even managed to light up the back side of
that post in front of the “fluttering” flag.
These have been discussed on the hundreds of web sites already.
In one of the links in the UK link titled “In the shadow,” there is a pic of an Astro-not coming
down the Lander. The guy talks about light reflection and stuff. There is just 7% reflection on
the Moon yet the pic is damn good. And, everything “patriotic” like the flag or the word “United
States” is always bright and visible.
Now, in this pic I just have a point to make which no one else has. If in fact the reflection has lit
up the “dark side” then why is there shade where the gold foil has kinks? Wouldn’t the
“reflection” be uniform?
As well, this pic is discussed in the site I attached before, and a close up of the right boot shows
a “single source” light reflection.
I just wanted to take one or two points from the links SOC have shown. The argument in those
links are rather stupid. I have seen this kind of “proof” before, and it works on a certain kind of
people, and only on a certain kind of people. The “proof” is stupid and illogical. It really dos not
make sense, IF it is looked at objectively. Which I don’t think is going to happen. In fact, that
UK site puts forth one of the most stupid arguments ever.
As for the Hubble and all that Jazz, there are hundreds of Earth-based telescopes, and the
“landing” sites are very accessible (visually) from Earth. Yet not even one single pic of the stuff
supposedly left behind.
Hell, I went to Google Moon, and those comedians turn the Moon into Swiss Cheese when you try to focus on the landing sites. Doesn’t anyone with common sense wonder why is it we can get within enough distance to these supposed landing sites “not” to any details, then suddenly “Swiss Cheese”??????
I guess they were told by the government to keep the “second” biggest hoax of century under wraps or else.
MIG-29 is the only logical choice for Iran if they want to go through airforce route. get 150 to 200 second hand MIG-29s from CIS countries and gave it mimimum upgrade like BVR.
Why second hand, and why CIS countries.
DO you really think if Iran orders 200 Migs the Russian will say no ” we don’t want the 3 Billion
Dollars”?
Furthermore, why minimum upgrade? Iranians seem to be more advanced than some think.
Then again, if the Iranians would have to get a plane and then have to upgrade it, why wouldn’t
they just get an advance one in the first place. The Russian would sell them just whatever they
want, relatively speaking. SU-34 comes to mind, like SOC suggested.
I wonder why wouldn’t the Iranians place an order for 100 SU-47s. The Russians would never
say no to 4 Billion Dollars.
Hmmmm………I can’t say if I remember my first flight because my dad was an Air Force pilot (Not USA), and those days there were hardly any restrictions. I used to play inside DC-3 Dakotas since I was this high, while he did his runs around the country.
Later on, I did the same inside C-130s. But not quit as free. Since I was older and a bit more apprehensive to constantly go into the Cockpit and bug him. I remember the first time I stepped inside the C-130 I thought “wow, this is huge,” and I was kind of afraid of all those insulated large hoses and electrical conduits on the ceiling. Which, incidentally, made good hiding places for the Blue Jeans, Cigarette Cartons and Johnny Walker Reds he brought back from his foreign country hops.
My own first flight was in a Cessna-152 in Memphis. And, I was thinking “ this must be the Volkswagen Beetle of the planes”.
Yelling won’t make you right, nor will it make the uncomfortable questions go away.
But why, if your case is so strong, do you insist on the debate being conducted on your terms and yours alone?
I have posed you two quite clear, practical and sensible questions which you have so far been quite unable to answer, to wit:
1) How could such a massive, wide-ranging and expensive conspiracy be kept secret for so long?
2) What is the substantial evidence for your proposition that the Moon landings were a hoax?
But wait… the hour is late. Let us call a pause, and continue this most interesting discussion on the morrow. Or later today, in fact.
Like I side, beating your skinny chest and yelling USA USA is the topic of another Forum at a FOX Network web site.
As for the 2 question you posed. The first one is an illogical one, and I think irrelevant at this point. Who knows, maybe later on, by some strange twist of fate, it becomes relevant.
And, the substantial evidence you are asking for, has been provided by thousands of mythbusters already. I really think it may be helpful if you visited the web site I attached. Then you can tell me which evidence is not right, or why I, along with the evidence at that site, am wrong.
That way we can discuss tangibles.