I am getting feel that many believe the Grifo S-7 is a RC-400 level radar? Remember it is stated on “numerous” sources that the Grifo 2000 will be suitable replacement for the early F-16 with the APG-66 radar, and the same applies for the RC 400. It seems like the Grifo S-7 had a similiar purpose of the 2000, and that is to replace the older radars. However it doesn’t seem like a competition between the RC-400 and S-7 for FC-1 radar makes any sense and would be like the RDY vs RBEU.

Grifo family radars belong to a modular design, meaning that system integaration is rather simple and they can be upgraded/downgraded according to customer’s requirements. Grifo 2000 was offered as a substitue to Westinghouse AN/APX-66(V2) (probably targeted at countries which couldnt afford or didnt have access to MLU radar from US) to replace the old APG-66, which indicates the level of tech involved in Grifo 2000. OTOH I remember reading somewhere that at ideas 2002, Fiar officials commented that grifo S7 will be the most advanced version of Grifo series (by that time Grifo 2000 was well on its way while we still dont know much about R&D of Grfio S7). If u want to know the basics of grifo 2000, check
http://www.aviationweek.com/shownews/02asia1/avion09_3.htm

PS. Something that replaces an old radar/fighter doesnt necessarily have to b low tech.

BTW, that user that stated numerous sites mentioned that RC-400 is an option, can you provide me a source other than the Venik’s website (Russian one) or the tripod one.

Simply do a google search.
BTW that tripod source quotes Indian strategic review, a weekly magazine from institute of strategic reasearch and analysis.

Pakistan should not have a problem with getting radars such as the Grifo etc, for 150 planes, many a company would want to do business, I doubt that Kopyo would be in the running though since the IAF is familiar with that family of radar.

PAF is extremely unlikely to b interested in Kopyo. However, if i remember correctly, Janes did report last year that Russia was pushing PLAAF to buy super kopyo for FC-1, which to me was an indication (at the time) that PLAAF may indeed purchase FC-1 (or so do russians thought).

Vikasrehman, can you prove to me with a French source that Thales was proposing the RC-400 on the FC-1?

As SD-10 pointed out…this is J-10 thread so lets not discuss such issues/comparisons here.

PS. There r numerous sites which mention RC-400, supersky ranger, Grifo S7 and a russian radar (perhaps kopyo?) to b the main contenders for FC-1’s radar. OTOH, u raised the point…so dont try to push the burden of proof to me please.

The Grifo S-7 cannot be compared to the RC-400

Is there any detailed info available on grifo S7.
If yes, would u plz tell the forum about the source?
If No, would you pleas explain your statement?

which Pakistan is NOT getting

What is the basis of your statement?

The Grifo S-7 do not have multi-target tracing and attacking capability.

I have come across just one site about FC-1 saying so. There may be some more. We dont even know whether the development of the radar is completed or not. So who told u?

Various comments about Dr Ayesha Siddiqa, questioning her credibility or contacts within pakistani defence services.

I personally dont know anything about the woman and hence cant comment…but lets not let things get out of perspective here.

1. First of all she writes for Janes, which is quite a reputable source of defence related news. I dont think such a publication would take on correspondents who are not good enough for them or lack any credibility.

2. Now take a look at the article itself. In first paragraph, it says according to the Chief Project Director (CPD), AVM Shahid Lateef.. She quotes him again in latter parts of the article. As Janes correspondent in Pakistan, she was likely to have been invited to the press briefing (about jF-17) held a few days ago and the overall style of the article suggests (to me at least) that she is conveying to us what was said in that briefing…and not trying to analyse anything herself. Now i, sure most of yous on this air forum with a half decent knowledge about air forces could have done the job equally well…and if so, the credibility doesnt come into equation here.

3. Finally, pakistani media reported that china has placed an order for large number of FC-1, while this article is saying that plaaf plans to purcahse 1,000 fighter. Wotever the end result be (we’ll find out soon hopefully), i think pakistanis seem to b rather sure (and hence telling the media) that plaaf will buy the plane. If PLAAF is not interested, then i dont know wot they will be doing with those 8 planes from the intial batch???;)

Just a simple point.
Many seem to be asking the questions whether china will buy any FC-1 or not.
I’d like to draw your attention to various pakistani newspapers which stated (last week) that china has already placed a large order for this fighter after briefings from PAF. Although, there is no official confirmation as yet, I dont think that so many papers would have made the same mistake or stated such a think unless there was a clear indication from pakistani side. 🙂

SD-10

My apologies. 🙂