What will they pay with? German money?

Yep but whatever it takes to get into that 90 degree aim-9x hemisphere as quick as possible though.

The principle of the f-35 is that it’ll get the first shot on you in most scenarios, but even if you make the merge you’re still in trouble at the first turn. It only needs to keep the initiative until team mates arrive (f-35 is more likely to get reinforcements earlyein a fight) and snipe you from range with amraams.

I’m struggling to find videos of other aircraft that do these high aoa turns at f-22 and f-35 speeds. Rafale just doesn’t seem to do it (delta), and even the Su-35 seems to struggle at moderate speed. It usually only seems to do a decent instantaneous turn at almost 0 velocity.

See at 4’10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgD4QvxhFyU

The F-35 will be the dominate fighter over the next 20-30 years. Plus, it’s being produced in very large numbers. So, hardly surprising it comes up often….

blah blah blah…

Well… A plausible way is to try to get some of the upgraded Harriers US Navy is going to have…

F-35 is considered by some believers as a new prophet of God. They will place it anywhere…

Well, the problem was the expensive european programs. For example, Nh90 helicopter is around 100 millione euros per unit. :very_drunk: And it was not militar decition, because militar wanted Blackhawk. Politicians choose the most expensive solution, How many Sh-60 can buy for 2.000 million euros?:eagerness:

Wow rarely such an amount of BS.

Nothing decide yet for Armada. Juan Carlos may aswell end as a chopper carrier.

Look germany, how ridiculous. They decided do not buy F-35,

Because F-35 isnt reliable yet?

PLEASE STOP KIDDISH smileys… Some of posters do become tiring with those, aswell as unsubstantiated bald assessments… Remember Maj Gruene talking about F-22 salad? Video from RAfale Hud? etc etc. Things are way more complicated…

As far as 60 AESA were ordered, you must be close to the truth.

I don’t think only new system have other mean of detection apart from radar, old system such as Sa-3, Sa-8, Startreak have back up optical guidance. With that said, IR, optical guidance have shorter range, limited by weather, can’t see through cloud and smoke.

Wrong about clouds. Depends on wavelength.

Long range ground radar can be located by ESM/RWR of fighter, and you need a way to relay the data from these long range radars to your SAM launcher, there is the horizon limit so either that your command post must have very tall antenna which make it harder to camouflage or it must be located close to the radar and narrow down the area that EO/IR/Radar must search.

Mdern ones have LPD modes

Container and Voronezh are early warning radars, they can’t be used for fire control, even though less popular US has very similar radar: AN/TPS-71 , AN/FPS-118

EWR can slave Xband radars, having them using more energy on certain quadraants.

SDB is an extremely slow and easy to destroy weapon if not used in clusters

Etc etc. Tiring to hear you parroting knowledgale persons without understanding… These 1 vs 1 (radar, aircraft, 2 aircrafts) do not exist anymore. Everything is networked. talking about 1 radar vs 1 plane is at best antiquated.