At current state no; but like Flexible stated AIM-9X have LOAL capability so can be launched from the internal bays. Same goes for IRIS-T or ASRAAM. I think its more of an integration question. If customer wants it, it will be integrated.
Not so sure there is enough room for both trapeze and deflector plate internally. Btw, apart from mica and future cuda, which western IR missile can be not rail launched?
Well… Not counting weapons…
F35A : 13300 Kgs + 8280 Kgs (fuel) five a fuel fraction of 0,37 no?
Rafale C 9500 kgs + 4800 Kgs fuel fraction 0.34 (internal fuel)
Add one supersonic tank, and Rafale fuel fraction get better than clean F35 (0.41) i didnt count the tank weight i agree.
That’s without weapon.
Now lets add 2000 kgs of bombs (for the sake of simplicity) fuel fraction 0.34 for F35 similar for Rafale.
Yes, there will be induced drag from the two bombs and the supersonic tank one should take into account.
However, Noone here counted the proposed add of CFTs on Rafale.
So which will have the best kinematics between clean F35 and Rafale + 2x1000L bombs + 1 centerline supersonic tank?
F35 carry sidewinder internally??? If not, some pylons should be added also no?
Did some clean up in mailbox.
Nice clip about 1/7 Provence, seme nice side screen views…. (ECM one is blurred as usual)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1dhgfj_clip-1-7-provence_news
Here’s some more to be going on with…………………..
4Nice, but better on typhoon thread?
My bad on the afterburner, i dont read rafale articles every day (specifically those datin from 1999).
On the other hand, you quote yourself
Finally, before climbing to high level, a hard turn was made, starting at 330kt using full reheat, principally to test the behaviour of the FCS. This was the first moment in the flight for controlled aggression. I simply rolled the Rafale into a nose-down steep turn and, as the reheat became effective (about 2s), moved the stick quickly to the aft stop. The aircraft responded by rapidly achieving 5g at 17-18ยบ alpha, turning smoothly and without buffet with the stick held on the aft stop.
He only used the aft to ente the turn. And 5g is still better than what F35 can do, afterburner or not.
Try this one also : AWST July 1999 issue 1 p. 48
Halloweene, cool article. I don’t see anything about the sustained turn with that configuration other than the “sustained a 60* degree banked turn at 374 knots”- 2 g’s sustained. The g’s the aircraft’s FCS allowed the aircraft to pull with that external load is impressive.
It may be from JM North article the same year or so for Av Week, but that one isn’t online (at least i couldn’t find it online)
15- AWST 715, 1999*; Vol 151 issue 1 p48
The Rafale test? Yes, would like your link, I keep getting the old article from flightglobal.
It is even older…(1999)
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/combat-ready-53125/
FBW, did you read what i wrote about sustained gs?
I’d love to have alike option on this forum ๐
you can’t type chris yeo rafale flight on google?
According to http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/flight-test-dassault-rafale-rampant-rafale-334383/ the test flight was with:
Not the right test, keep looking hehe…
They were heavily involved in the very early days of the programme, shared and exchanged information with the other partners so they would have received a certain amount of knowledge and know how, and they’re hardly going to forget all about that after they left… It’s pretty self-explanatory, isn’t it not?
The reverse can be said… And considering the respective capabilities at the time of countries to build a modern jet, if a country gave and lost information, it is more France than other partners…
They were definitely committed in cooperation with the Tornado and Eurofighter programmes, yet they pulled out and went their way – after getting what they needed that is. Taking those situations into account, as well as requirements, I wouldn’t have France on-board the third time around. Twice bitten thrice shy. I’d rather stick with Germany, Italy, Spain and I would most certainly attempt to push Sweden to get involved. However, it’s requirements for the latter so I wouldn’t bank on them joining.
And what did they get from Eurofighter program? France needed a smaller fighter than UK wanted so as to use on carrier.
And wake me up when the Rafale will match the F 35 performances in that configuration. I doubt that in these conditions the Rafale will make 0.6M in dry thrust and 1.2 M in AB. Meanwhile the F 35 will go 1.6M…
I suggest you to read Chris Yeo and JM North flight tests with 3 200ร L tanks and 2 cruise missiles, Chris Yeo had to stop accelerate (in dry thrust) at Mach 0.9 because the plane reminded him not to do so. And he maintained a 5.2 g turn. In JM North article, you will learn that during tests, A Rafale equipped with 3x2000L “subsonic” tanks was pushed at Mach 1.6…