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  • in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2147346
    halloweene
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    Combat ready without proper MDFs???? just quoting “Even with the final version of 3F, the Air Force will not be able to use the newest aircraft in combat. The service will, however, still be able to deploy the majority of the aircraft in the squadron, which are in the 3i configuration, Graff stresses. The Pentagon has not yet finished building and testing the operational Mission Data File (MDF) set for the 3F software, which will provide a vast databank of threat information needed for combat, Graff notes.”

    in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2147388
    halloweene
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    So correct me if i’m wrong (frem avweek article), 3F block software expected in september is… preliminary (3i) flight envelope) (which release?). Unable to combat due to missing MDF, (not before mid 2018 testing start)… But everything is on track… Again.
    So as far as i understood, not combat ready before 2019…
    Notice i’m criticizing program, not plane.

    in reply to: Panavia Tornado – Concept, Role, Review, Comparison #2147591
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    You want to make a generalization about low-level ingress/egress on the modern battlefield based on statistics from 1991 Iraq i.e. populated by mostly static defences?

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    *What do you want to make statistics from on the other hand?
    Interesting deate btw, not sure there is any definitive answer.
    About weapons, yes AASM has a “short” range at low level, but still quite comfotable at 100/200 fts. it is not that easy, even with an approximative heading a terrain hugging flying over 600 Kts. (Except i f you have an automatic system slaving your targeting system.

    in reply to: UCAV/UAV/UAS News and discussion 2015 #2147594
    halloweene
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    French MoD announced today that Armée de l’Air drones will be armed. at “Université d’été de la Défense”.

    in reply to: Rafale 2017-2 #2147612
    halloweene
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    Thanks. The reason I ask is because I happened to be involved in a discussion recently with a retired Royal Navy officer visiting the US, where he drew parallels between the F-22A and the USAF and the Rafale with the Armée de l’air. I certainly didn’t know circa 2012, France intended on spending in excess of $50 Billion (as he put it) to close out the program before a comprehensive mid-life upgrade. Given the budget disparity between the two nations from that perspective (not that it is the best way to look at it) the program seems like the F-22 and B-2 rolled into one.

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    you are bsolutely right. Rafale program is very expensive considering french budget. However, it is allowed by two reasons : first is independance : ITAR free. Second is strategic, Rafale being one of our nuclear vector. All this due to international poisture as an independant nuclear power. However, you raised an interesting question, i’ll keep digging for raw data 😉

    in reply to: Rafale 2017-2 #2147637
    halloweene
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    Interesting topic that hasn’t benn rehashed for years. I’ll dig.
    In the meanwhile, in y memory, total schedule cost was 47 billion euros (1986 euro) for the originally scheduled number of planes (around 320, need to check)
    Industrials had to pay for 25% of development cost (40 billion francs). The eal as to refund those on exports.
    Cour des Comptes said the drift of costs was around 5%
    180 ordered, present target 286…. (250 own estimate, but number should vary greatly)
    numbers cited by Senate i linked above include VAT (20%). Dunno if it is of interest to you.
    In 2012, Senate estimated value of program : 44.2 billion euros for 286 planes.
    aka 112 miilion per plane (but i think it is without VAT)
    ADD F3R program (not originally scheduled, 1 billion dev).
    It is very difficult to assess present studies values (called PEA, Plan d’Etudes Amont) as they are financed by DGA more or less independantly.
    Values are generally given in then year dollar/franc, makin difficult to compute values.
    Maybe the best way to assess value of the program would be to check “programme 146) of every LPF (loi de programmation de finances) concerning the acquisition of hardware. program 144 about studies is interesting also albeit more or less secret.
    Add to that adaptations of the Combat system to nuclear missile ASMP/A which may (or not) be payed in the programme …
    Mostly straight from my own memory. As said above, i’ll try to dig.

    in reply to: Rafale 2017-2 #2147773
    halloweene
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    Is there a document with a comprehensive breakdown of the total cost of the program to the French taxpayer? Something like an accounting of Research and Development Cost, Procurement Cost for the fleet (both money spent and projected to complete the program) and the cost of upgrades?

    I think the only one you will get is that old one concerning 294 planes. Every updates till F3 were scheduled and included in it, until the one billion more value for the F3-R, neither the recently started F4. 2006 values here http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/12/budget/plf2006/a2572-08.asp#P409_12225 specially the suty cost 10,636 milliards d’euros, dont 8,803 milliards d’euros à la charge de l’Etat

    in reply to: AESA Radar range calculator. #2148218
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    VERY complicated, but certainly not impossible AFAIK, changing time shifts no?

    lambda/2 is linked to 60° value isn’t it?

    in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2149033
    halloweene
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    mproved moving target attack capability,

    “improved”? It existed?

    in reply to: Airbus: European Future Fighter Program #2149036
    halloweene
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    Not misunderstood just rendered obsolete (the concept not the aircraft) very soon while other aircraft (same class, different concept) thrived. Much like the 1957 Sandys Paper, had the ASR drafters known then what is known now, the Tornado would have come into existence.

    Package Q or Sebia did not render the concept obsolete. Deep low level penetration can still be useful (albeit ot for mass effects, i agree).

    in reply to: Airbus: European Future Fighter Program #2149193
    halloweene
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    Post 199 in this topic made by “Hallowene”, who is a French Aerospace/defense Journo

    non profesional ;). But thx
    PS. Main source was Collet-Billon, head of DGA at the time…

    Perhaps once the 2 nation-specific demonstrators have flown and a follow on project ensues, it would be possible to allow other parties some kind of programme access.

    It was the initial plan.

    in reply to: 2017 F-35 news and discussion thread #2149376
    halloweene
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    “The Méchant* fighter […] that’s what they** call the airplane”

    one will not call an airplane méchant, but it “looks” méchant. (il à l’air méchant)

    in reply to: Airbus: European Future Fighter Program #2149906
    halloweene
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    Both the French Navy and Army use NATO standards, protocols and systems, or in other words, they use L16, L22, Rover and so on, American standards, protocols and systems.

    I think he is talking about “CONTACT” program, phase 3 (air) starting next year. Much more advanced networking than any NATO standard.

    And ESSOR european program, with a european waveform software.Albeit SCA compatible. Btw, theselected waveform will e candidate for STANAG NATO Wideband Waveform.

    in reply to: Airbus: European Future Fighter Program #2150216
    halloweene
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    So did you say that French trust more Koreans than us?

    Nor really, but. Italian Gov is the owner of Fincantieri. French Gov. Proposed a 50/50 agreement. Unions were afraid that (i) in case of crisis, Ficnantieri would favour italian yards. (ii) That tech would go to china through agreements Fincantieri has with agreements with chinese. (iii) STX is the only yard left in France able to build our future carrier…
    Expect soon a “naval airbus” to come in Europe.

    in reply to: Airbus: European Future Fighter Program #2150239
    halloweene
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    Let’s be realistic, France does what it wants and there are no more valid motivations than Industrial or strategic thinking to prevent the loss of an Industrial asset like STX

    You know that STX was a property of Koreans, do you? And that Fincantieri DO have a deal about large ships with chinese involving tech transfer?

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