I don’t see any reduced ambitions! The KFX is to date what looks like the most advanced and matured fighter aircraft project outside the US.
What about Pak-Fa, Shin shin???
Who won the trophy btw?
There is a contest for naming the future aircraft on Facebook…
After reading for example this:
https://www.hartpunkt.de/frankreich-…uen/#more-2768
I assume Dassault will get the project lead, not Airbus.
Very interesting, thank you.. Good to see a German point of view.
@Mrmalaya. Very possible that Boardman’s words were reported out of context. They seem too awkward
Back to topic plz?
That is why i was asking for another source.
Airbus gets their Sagitta subscale demonstrator in the air:
Link dead.
i read somewhere (TTU) that BAE complained about FCAS organization and was lobbying parliament to continue Taranis effort. Any source if true?
And the french are dubbed “arrogant”?
Did i say they “knew” better? I said they were unanimous here.
But you wouldn’t miss an occasion to troll would you? Incorrigible :eagerness:
I don’t doubt that FCAS in the Franco-British sense is a UCAV, with systems that could be of use to a fighter in part (that was my point).
I just think the UK Typhoon replacement is not this fighter. This feels like it will need to do Air to ground as much as anything else -for two countries that don’t operate the F35 in that role.
I agree. Many tech nologu bicks to be used in the program.
I phoned yesterday afternoon at Dassault Dircom. They were not aware (although apprehensive). What they are afraid from is that Germany may inject more money and promise more orders) than France and require leadership on the program (of course he did not say it exactly that way). Apparently they are not very happy that Germany imposed a dual engine for Eurodrone to comply with their laws and regulations.
Imho, few things are important to consider.
– Its been many times that Germany asked to join FCAS program
– The document states “long term” procurement
About the FCAS part, FCAS being a system of systems and not only the FCAS DP drone a manned fighter could complement it instead of challenge it.
About long term, it would be very interesting to consider the German Tornado retirement calendar. A new fighter would need maybe 20 years to be operational. I doubt that (and would be very interested in informations, @scorpion82 ?) that German Tornados can manage to last till 2035. If so they may need a replacement in the meanwhile. Purchasing F-35 would certainly not be well accepted on this siode of the Rhine.
The decision is purely politic. There is, according to every expert here, no need for a Rafale replacement before 2050. Ppl are afraid that Rafale program may be sacrified to Europe of Defense without sufficient counterparts from Germany.
We well know much more when the “calendar” promised for mid 2018 will be released.
Just my few cents.
The original communique
La France et l’Allemagne conviennent de développer un système de combat aérien européen, sous
la direction des deux pays, pour remplacer leurs flottes actuelles d’avions de combat sur le long
terme. Les deux partenaires souhaitent mettre au point une feuille de route conjointe d’ici à mi2018.
Dassault was as surprised as we are. No panic. First, intergov talks for calendar, and german elections. Then program definition by produrement agencies. Then feasability studies… etc.
AFAIK the F-135 in itself isn’t faulty. It is the position of the APU intake.
We are talking about engine start. Not take off. I’m just wondering what is the angle limitation for ignition of engines (about airplanes stored on the front part of the deck) not trying to launch an argument. The issue is not unique to F-35, but airspeed is low and the problem is with APU intake. Nvm, we’ll see.
Tailwind Caused September F-35 Engine Fire
There is a problem here. Limiting ignition of engine to 20 kts of tail wind may be problematic for aircrafts stored on front part of a carrier.
I thought SWAF was now reluctant to have more C/D go away for lease?