I wasn’t talking about Red-Flag et al. I was referring to discussions here.
The users of the weapon on the F-16 should test it but why at Red Flag, just get range space/time and test against a similar threat. Would be cheaper and more directed toward an actual evaluation if done say at White Sands.
Agree, i just meant that such a propelled medium range weapon fit on a 4 or 4+ Gen (i hate those so called “Gens”), be it Rafale, Gripen E, F-16 on CJ config, could be an interesting solution deserving to be tested in same AA scenario.
Love it how these scenarios almost always tend to have the US/NATO et al trying to penetrate Russian air-space and bomb targets deep within it.
Fairly normal as it is training. First we do not know if they were mimicking russian or chinese systems (different despite brotherhood). Not so sure it would be relevant to train to penetrate NATO system would it?
Btw, as AASM has been integrated onto F-16, it would be nice to test it (or similar weapon) no?
UK defense ministry confirms aircraft carrier will be late
http://navaltoday.com/2017/02/01/uk-defense-ministry-confirms-aircraft-carrier-will-be-late/
On Nellis AFB site http://www.nellis.af.mil/News/tabid/6431/Article/1071259/f-35a-proving-its-worth-at-red-flag-combat-exercise.aspx
However it is noticeable that agressors were F15C and F16C. Dunno which radar they have.
13 aircraft for 2 weeks and 110 sorties… Is it usual number or fairly low?
would a PC-21 be sufficient for all phases of training? (less types, easier logistics)
or still a 3-4 type progression is better?
Pilatus claims so. See here an interview we did of a PC21 pilot at PAS 2013 https://www.portail-aviation.com/2013/08/en-retard-du-bourget-interview-dun.html
However, if one stay on the classical progression line (learn fly basics, than fighter flights systems than fast speed), Pilatus is perfect for 2nd part, but too expensive for part 1 and too slow for parrt 3 (despite PC21 able to “emulate” fighter speed for simulated missions) well… That’s my view. I remember Pete Collins telling me during an interview that, considering the importance of weapon systems etc. nowadays it might be more sensible now to teach taht part first to every pilots (not only fighters), than to dispatch them according to basic flight results. He also said that transsition from PC21 to Rafale should be easy, but we are talking of a pilot that was qualified on over 170 tupes of planes.
Genuine question. Can controlability at low speeds/High AoA be roughly deduced from landing speed?
Swiss
Simulator -> pc-7/9 -> pc-21 -> FA-18D or F-5B?Israel
Simulator -> Grob-> Texan -> M-346 -> F16B or F-15B?Singapore
Simulator -> Pc-21 -> M-346 -> F-5T?
Saudi
Simulator -> Pc-21 for all until 2 seat converterthere’s a lot of options.. sometimes used differently. Singapore PC-21 is considered basic while in Swiss it seems more advanced (correct me if this is wrong)
Swiss PC-21 are very sophisticated combat simulators (up to 4 vs 4 fights eg. )
Simply not a high priority. It’s only an issue when the F-35C is lightly loaded, and that pretty much only happens during carrier quals and maybe some short-range hops. Once you put enough fuel and weapons in it to carry out an operational mission the problem disappears.
It does demonstrate the hyperbole in media reporting about the F-35 though — the plane being too bouncy on take-off when lightly loaded (i.e. not a problem in most missions) is reported as “debilitating” and yet Russian planes are crashing every several weeks in the Mediterranean and apparently that’s fine.
Not a high priority but quoted as “to fix” by navy. Saying it’s unimportant just show… Well nvm. The day you are a pilot and have to take off lightly loaded (eg QRA), will you sit in ?
Lee Hudson reported this a few weeks ago –
I was not kidding when talking about Rafale front landing gear. It stores energy to release it when catapult acceleration stops.
Well at this stage, it doesn’t mean anything more than BAE are using their skills as consultants on an up to date project. How much of that will translate across to anything else, is anyone’s guess eh?
I was thinking that with Japanese weaponry and Turkish funded avionics, the RAF aircraft are going to be less of a Eurofighter by 2030…
japese weaponry atm limited to their will to incorporate their seeker in Meteor. @obligatory Typhoon is an excellent tool to deterr russian raid over north sea or Fulda. To attack ADA, F-35 or a Typhoon/FCAS combo would be fine.
Can anyone enlighten me as to why it has only now become apparent that there is a problem catapulting a light weight F35C?
As I understood it catapult tests had been conducted on land at a couple of places at least, as well as on another afloat test period, I would have thought with lightly loaded test planes to being with, there was no reported problem with these launches as far as I am aware? Or where the land trials using the EMALS system, that might have been programmed better to deal with a light weight F35C. Still confused that nothing came up at the first afloat test period..
Just a little surprised that NAVAIR has only let this cat out of the bag and suggests that it will take a couple of years to fix now…
It was known since 2014
As opposed to — what? French carrier aviation?
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Rolls Royce owns the technology behind EJ200. Germany doesn’t have much influence in the transfer. I find the timing convenient with the Brexit. Almost as soon as political maneuvers delayed the exit we see a rush to send sensitive technologies abroad. Almost like the bleeding hasn’t yet stopped because the wound is much deeper than was originally diagnosed. The UK is finding itself inundated with greed – or is it sabotage – just trying to undermine it’s future. Turkey isn’t unlikely to re-export these sensitive products to countries unfriendly to UK interests. If nothing else, they’ve shown a penchant to hate the UK in every way except for to its face.
I would certainly hate to see EJ200 technology in Russian or Chinese aircraft. I never liked them in Saudi aircraft, either, but now they are all over the gulf states.
Ok about the timing (how long was it ago when UK was shouting at turkish “dictator?) but i do not think we do know the exact repartition of EJ 200.