Spit Mk II cockpitsection and Stirlingproject
Thanks Rocketeer/ Tony for your help with the Spit column part. Can go on with the cockpitsection now.
Also thank you for sending me the files for the Stirling panel decals Hindenburg/Martin. This project is going on fine. The decals are ordered and will be fixed to the panel soon.
:):)
Rijnko
Spitfire spade grip
Re: Rocketeer
Only Spit V onwards ? I have the same grip with rectangular firebutton and would like to fix it in my Spit Mk II b cockpitsection.
Rijnko
My grip has number AHO8068 so it seems O.K. putting it in my Spit MK IIb section. Thanks.
Short Stirling Mk III cockpit clock
Can anybody tell me the exact place of the clock in the Short Stirling MK III cockpit ? Was it a clock like the one in the Spitfire or with a somewhat smaller dial (ref.nr.?) A picture would be great.
Rijnko
Hi John,
I did so, but that is the problem. I cannot find a clock at all in my pilot’s notes Stirling Mk I,III,IV. On pictures in books you see sometimes a clock or only a stopwatch on different places. Before I make the holes in the panel I would like to know if they are on the right place and for what clock, but that seems rather difficult. I think the best place is on the left side next to the longdolly ignition switches in the center and for the clock with the smaller dial with square backplate
Rijnko
Yes, John that is the correct place for the stopwatch, I think.
I have often seen the stopwatch on that place, but souldn’t there also be a clock in the cockpit or did the pilot have to look on his wristwatch ?
You sometimes see a clock above the right magnetoswitches, between the D.R. switches and the Undercarriage masterswitch. On the other hand you also see sometimes,on later Stirlings, a blank square plate on the location of the stopwatch just the size of the backplate from the clock with the smaller dial. So rather confuzing. I am not sure what is best at the moment.
Rijnko
It is a RAF Pre-selector unit, type B, for the Bomb release system Vickers Wellington
Had a look today in Michael J.F.Bowyer’s book The Stirling Story and on page 168 is a cockpit-picture of a MK III Stirling. There is a stopwatch and a clock with small dial just like Hindenburg’s panel. So I’m going to fix my Mk II c clock, ref.nr.6A/1104 on the same place and hope to purchase a stopwatch and stopwatch-holder soon to add to the panel..
Rijnko
I have handled this problem by replacing most of my luminous Spit instruments by flourescent ones. The original luminous I keep in a box with a lead and aluminium lining. My Stirling panel still has a lot of luminous instruments.
I have made a big lead and aluminium screen which I can place in front of the instrumentpanel when not using it. The gamma- and beta radiationlevel is neutralized in this way. I know in Dutch museums they have to place a 1 cm (minimum) thick perspexglass in front of certain luminous instruments.
Rijnko
If I’m going to buy RAF instruments I look at first in my RAF Equipment list for Instruments and Navigation Equipment References 6A and 6B.
If the instrument is not listed or is not RAF I have a small U.V. lamp for stampscontrol with me.
If the ciphers and dial light up orange it is flourescent and is radiumfree.
You can buy such a lamp with battery for only about GBP 10,-
Rijnko
Not another. It is the one in post nr. 464 in this thread. As you can see on that picture the control column still has to be fixed, which is quite a job.
Cheers,
Rijnko
For me: nr. 1. Short Stirling, nr. 2. Spitfire, nr.3. P-51 Mustang, nr. 4. DH Mosquito.
This is not only alarming news for WW2 aircraft instrument collectors. Also many post war jets used luminous instruments. For example the F-104 Starfighter has a lot of luminous instruments in the cockpit.
Thank you for these interesting pictures. The T 1 bombsight however is placed in my Mosquito B 35 replica nose section. If you can post pictures of the Mosquito B 35 bombaimers section that would be great. I could not find any pictures on the net and in books.
Thanks to your last picture I found out that the flex drive has to go through the bigger hole underneath the left arm upwards to connect inside. Great !