“one day I’ll be posting a VERY SPECIAL IsAF F-15 pic”
Hmmmmm….
Does that mean there is such a picture of a knocked out IDF/AF F-15 or that you hope the SYAAF makes a kill.
Ahh the S-211 the post child for the poor shape the PAF is in…..
“I think it’s time the Ruskies swallowed their pride.”
Same. The Cold War is over and Russia lacks the money to keep the reduced armed forces they have now.
“this means keeping only Su-27/ MiG-29 and MiG-31 series a/c along with Il-78 tankers (it is a big country after all) and A-50 AWACS”
They might want to take the expensive and role limited MiG-31 out of service and leave in the Su-27S/UB, MiG-29, Su-24M and Su-25. Cutting down thier fleet in terms of types and numbers would save a good deal of money.
“That would mean retiring all strategic bombers (Tu-22M/Tu-95/Tu-160) and the bulk of the Sukhoi strike fleet (Su-24/-25) and even large numbers of strategic transports such as Il-76 or An-22.”
Other then looking nice the bombers don’t do to much and just soak up money to keep in service and in the air. I would think the Su-24 and Su-25 could stay around as they still fill a need and are much cheaper to use.
“Because if that report is true, they won’t have an airforce soon anyway.”
They have been in a decline since the early 1990s and not one of thier own chose.
“But then again, I am just a dodgy University student who is arguably clueless in these matters….”
Aren’t most of us 😀
This does come several months after the F-4E ejector seat thing which damaged the IDF/AFs ability to use stand off weapons due to the fact the F-4E 2000 was the main user of the AGM-142 and the lack of seats kinda would make them unsafe. Using the F-15B/D to launch these would replace the F-4E with a newer, safer and more modern platform anyways.
” OK that sounds dumb but what I mean is an E / I jet is setup to carry big loads better when it was built. I would think the D would be load restricted ????”
I would think the same the F-15D has a lighter air frame and hold a lighter combat load (16,000 vs. 24,500) compared to the F-15E. The F-15E also has a stronger airframe to hold extra bombs and such. Israel has used the F-15D to carry GBU-15s in combat.
“So any conclusions you draw from that…. ??”
They need a plane to carry stand off weapons to replace the F-4E 2000 in that role. They only mentioned one air to ground weapon and that was the AGM-142D which could mean they want extra planes for the stand off strike role. Maybe the F-15I also has a better self defense system to go through heavy air defense.
“Why JDAM wasn’t mentioned, I don’t know.”
Maybe they have not fitted the F-15I for the JDAM, don’t know. Or maybe they plan to use the F-15D AUP only for certain missions. Then you could have the cost of adding in the JDAM and they do have a good number of planes which can employ it but only a few which can use the AGM-142D. The stand off strike role once filled by the F-4E might be better filled by the F-15s then the F-16s (I do know the F-16 can use the AGM-142).
“Be cool to find out more info on how they will incorporate SPICE.”
Well it could turn out that since the F-16C/Ds can already use it they might not want to spend money to employ it on an extra platform.
This is a neat topic, the upgraded F-15B/Ds are kind of like the Su-27UBM in a way.
shamayel:
Nice Mirage 2000-5 but a few problems…
You pictured it carrying 2 Super 530D, 4 MICA IR and 2 R-550 Mk.2. But the Mirage 2000-5 cannot use or guide the older Super 530D but it uses the MICA EM which ride in the place you put the MICA IRs and no real point to carry the MICA IR and R-550 Mk.2 anyways.
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Gotta love the A-37 even in spite of its rather bad rep in some places.
The plane severed Vietnam for some years after 1975 and was highly important in the take over of Cambodia.
A Vietnamese A-37
“Ballistic missiles might be enough, and are easy enough to procure. How readily will the West attack a country within ballistic missile range of them… even just with conventional warheads. Flying at 20,000ft would not protect them then.”
If Serbia even waved ballistic missiles at someone it would be bombed back into the Stone Age.
“Scud missiles are relatively cheap and an effective enough deterent for the near future. They don’t need to be armed with anything more than a HE warhead. A few dozen Scud launchers plus the ability to make missiles wouldn’t cost much. They are useless as an aggressive weapon of war… how can you invade a country with such weapons?”
I hate to tell you but a Scud is worthless even as a deterrent, it would not be able to do anything then kill women and children making it all the much easier to bomb Serbia more. Yeah Serbia fires a ballistic missile at Paris or London and the nation better be ready to be bombed without mercy.
“So the fight for freedom and liberty is for nothing.”
I don’t care what you say Serbia was not fighting for freedom or liberty.
“And it is Serbia’s fault that the USA and NATO acts the way it does?”
No it is Serbia’s fault it acted in the way it did to start the trouble in the first place. NATO and the USA stopped bombing Serbia a couple years ago. It’s over. If Serbia does something to start trouble again it would be Serbia’s fault yet again.
Grow up.
“Quite true, but a better solution would be to develop nuclear weapons. That seems to be the only thing the West respects.”
That’s really smart, get beat up once again this time for building WMDs. At the very least Serbia would catch crippling sanctions which would finish off its economy and at the most you would be a 4-5 month air campaign followed with ground troops.
“A few ballistic missiles like Scuds would be useful too… considering what would be in range.”
Wow so people can look at Serbia like a country which never learned in lesson. Nukes and missiles at this rate Serbia will be a crater in a few years.
“Sucking up to the US and the west isn’t the only way to prosper.”
So Serbia will be the next North Korea in terms of a dirt-poor nation? Serbia should make closer ties with the USA and NATO and not try to be the next North Korea. People should grow up and see that trying to confront the USA and NATO exspecially for a small and poor nation like Serbia is blindingly stupid.
There are some crazy people on these boards…
“at least 1-2 short range AAMs for self-defence and be able to carry more AAMs for helicopter hunting.
I dont think we want it to be defencesless in the air, this is also for self defence against fighters and other things around as well as from Helicopters, this would be excellent for destroying helicopters.”
Well carrying a missile would depend on where the plane is actually going. For most CAS/COIN operations prop planes go on thier is not an aerial threat. Yes its always nice to be able to shoot down a helicopter with say a R-550 Mk.2 but you would not always go up with it.
“If they had a good airforce, Nato would never attack in the first place.”
They don’t have the resources to build up a good airforce. Taiwan has a “good” airforce and they have spent over 10 billion dollars plus more to keep a good airforce in the sky. Serbia cannot keep its obsolete 5 MiG-29A/UBs in the air that should really tell you about their ability to deter NATO. In fact the IrAF in 1991 put up a better fight then Serbia did over Kosovo.
“The only reason Nato attacked last time was because they knew there would be no (or extremely low) losses. Nato would never touch them if they had an airforce capable of inflicting some good losses against them.”
Serbia does not have the money or options to build up an airforce able to inflict big losses on NATO.
“Even a single squadron of modern planes in good condition would be a deterent.”
No not at all. They would need more then 16 modern fighters to face NATO. 16 MiG-29SMTs would not even act as a speed bump.
Maybe you guys should look to making Serbia an ally of the USA and a member of NATO and not try and relive past defeats. Serbia can never and will never defeat NATO and the USA but could become an ally. Plus it would be a lot better then finishing bankrupting the nation with trying to spent enough to develop a modern airforce.
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