So 5 min low thrust for prep and taxing, 10 min full ab and regular USAF prescribed reserve being 20 min loiter AND 5% of max fuel. So roughly 100 + a few tons + 400 kg + 400 kg

Here’s thunderbirds manual. http://afthunderbirds.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2015-Support-Manual.pdf
They say one f16 needs approx. 800 gallons per show flight. That’s some 2,4 tons. F-35, being roughly 60% heavier would, also very roughly, consume 3,8 tons of fuel.

Whatever the F-16 needs, it carries 6,000lbs of fuel for a staged airshow, 5,000lbs for a high show, and 4,000lbs for a low show. (staged i.e. not taking off from the site of the airshow). Considering the only USAF F-35 air shows are part of the heritage flights which require 18,000lbs of fuel, the standard fuel load for future F-35 air shows may not be established yet. The Dutch may have different fuel requirements for air shows, so who knows how much fuel the F-35’s were carrying in the above video.

http://www.acc.af.mil/Portals/92/Docs/2016_Demo_Team_and_HF_Support_Manual_11%20Apr%2016.pdf?ver=2016-04-14-100903-430

Disengenuous, and sour grapes. You got called out for making assumptions, leave it . The only time it flies with less than full fuel is a short display. Standard display- which you can read- flown with an impressive 18,000 lbs.
Don’t care what Sukhoi’s fly with, just care that your point was B.S.

Super, can’t wait for months of airshow armchair “analysis”, and the ensuing pointless arguments.

Air S-H-O-W

Ehm, gun in A version is internal, so I guess it should not be counted.

Said so, just crossmatching such numbers leave me quite suspicious about the 9G pretense at the (not operatively realistic) 100% fuel: not about the fact it can make it trought phisically: just about how it would end up in terms of speed and energy after having performed it…

There is literally almost nothing accurate in the figures parlay posted. Seriously, the empty weight is easy to find accurately, yet his is off by over 1000lbs. Just numbers pulled out of a hat

Granted, it is said that F-35 comes with a higher wing loading, so it could be true.
But again what is the NTOW and MTOW of F-35A?

What do you want? Loaded weight or operating empty weight (OEW)? MTOW is 70,000lb class.

Something is very off here.. What is the NTOW of F-35A?
I suspect the Full fuel quote is at 55-65% fuel fraction range at 9G.

Nope, you’d be wrong. Several posters with selective reading. How do you outright dismiss the statements from Lockheed VP O’bryan clearly stating 9g with full fuel and missiles in the AFA’s own magazine? Then read the DOT&E and completely ignore parts from all three variants:
F-35C-full block 2b(partial envelope compared to 3F) 6g available with 93% fuel. Flight testing to full 7.5g block 3F with fuel monitoring system being conducted.
F-35B-full block 2b(partial envelope compared to 3f) 5.5g available with 96% fuel. Flight testing to clear full block 3F.
F-35A- posted above.

Now, if you cannot understand that the full g envelope for all three variants is at full fuel in 3F, then you either don’t want to see it, or simply cannot read reports.

Well make sure you use it future – I can supply you a copy of Boman if you don’t have it.

Read the above and have a great day!